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Old 02-02-2008, 03:19 PM
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Washing K&N air filters

I bought a K&N filter for my car 10 months ago and am finally getting around to washing it. The K&N stock cleaning fluid has a familiar smell to it but I cannot remember fimiliar to what? I was wondering what else can be used to safely wash their filters. I was thinking something like Simple Green. I would like to know what other K&N filter users are using to clean their filters?
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Old 02-02-2008, 03:34 PM
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Before I threw my K&N away (it got oil all over and thus damaged an intake air sensor in my last gasser), I washed it in "409." I suggest that you do the same.

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I dipped mine in a bath of kerosene. I don't know all the pros or cons of this method, but it worked well for me in a pinch. I believe the risk is that the filter is so clean, it is not trapping any particulates. K&N makes an oil spray that is supposed to help the effectiveness of their filters. I read about it on their website, but when I inquired about it at my local auto parts store, which carries a large selection of K&N filters, I found that they do not carry it. The clerk did not seem to think it was necessary. Of course, this is just one opinion and maybe not a very well informed one.

The K&N came with my car and I was exploring around to find why oil was leaking out of the bottom of my air cleaner housing. It appeared to me that the engine was starved for air because of the dirty air filter and was sucking air along with oil up through the return tube that travels down to the crankcase. After cleaning the filter and changing the oil, the problem went away. It could also have been due to a dirty check valve at the base of the tube which corrected itself after I changed the oil. But that is a whole different topic. If you are interested, Dave Morrison wrote up an excellent DIY article on replacing the check valve.

My car performed significantly better after I cleaned the filter, as it was soaked with oil and preventing air from flowing freely through.
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K&N makes a recharge kit that includes the correct cleaner and oil. I can't see how using some other product to clean it makes sense. It is possible that another cleaner will strip too much of the filter oil out or impede the adhesion of the new oil. Same goes for the oil. IIRC, the K&N oil is animal/vegetable and not petroleum at all? The oil is specific, very tacky and dyed. The whole point of a K&N is that it be wet enough with oil that it catches the debris, dirt, etc. I soak mine until they drip, the wetter the better. As with other things in life....

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K&N makes a recharge kit that includes the correct cleaner and oil. I can't see how using some other product to clean it makes sense. It is possible that another cleaner will strip too much of the filter oil out or impede the adhesion of the new oil. Same goes for the oil. IIRC, the K&N oil is animal/vegetable and not petroleum at all? The oil is specific, very tacky and dyed. The whole point of a K&N is that it be wet enough with oil that it catches the debris, dirt, etc. I soak mine until they drip, the wetter the better. As with other things in life.... RT
RT: This sounds like good advice. I think I need to look further for that kit.

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Old 02-02-2008, 06:20 PM
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RT: This sounds like good advice. I think I need to look further for that kit.

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RT: This sounds like good advice. I think I need to look further for that kit.

Richard
I have seen the add flash at the top of the page of this forum it may be that Fastlane or one of our other sponsers have the recharge kits; Krangen (partamerica) has them, the local Autozone sells the filters buy you have to order the oil/cleaner kit (which I have). I believe both sell the recharge oil in 1qt or 1gallon bottles also without the sprayer.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:00 PM
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RT: This sounds like good advice. I think I need to look further for that kit.

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I was thinking that when my cleaner in the kit has run out I would clean the filter with something else but buy the K&N oil for rechargeing it.
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I dipped mine in a bath of kerosene. I don't know all the pros or cons of this method, but it worked well for me in a pinch. I believe the risk is that the filter is so clean, it is not trapping any particulates. K&N makes an oil spray that is supposed to help the effectiveness of their filters. I read about it on their website, but when I inquired about it at my local auto parts store, which carries a large selection of K&N filters, I found that they do not carry it. The clerk did not seem to think it was necessary. Of course, this is just one opinion and maybe not a very well informed one.

The K&N came with my car and I was exploring around to find why oil was leaking out of the bottom of my air cleaner housing. It appeared to me that the engine was starved for air because of the dirty air filter and was sucking air along with oil up through the return tube that travels down to the crankcase. After cleaning the filter and changing the oil, the problem went away. It could also have been due to a dirty check valve at the base of the tube which corrected itself after I changed the oil. But that is a whole different topic. If you are interested, Dave Morrison wrote up an excellent DIY article on replacing the check valve.

My car performed significantly better after I cleaned the filter, as it was soaked with oil and preventing air from flowing freely through.
I do not think I have this check valve on my 300D. They say the filter element is made of cotton so I do not thine Karosene would hurt the element. The rubber part; who knows. They do say not to over oil the filter and like any filter it can get plugged from use. Sound like the PO never cleaned it.
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I had one for the jeep, bought the recharge kit, too. Got one for the MB, new in box.
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The danger of washing improperly is shrinking the cotton element, not over-cleaning.
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:36 PM
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The danger of washing improperly is shrinking the cotton element, not over-cleaning.
Correct! I have been selling K&N filters for almost 15 years and seen some people do some really retarded stuff to them. The holes in the cotton are of a certain size as to facilitate the use of the oil that is designed for it that closes the holes in the filter down to the correct micron size. If you clean it with the wrong stuff you will damage the element. If you use the wrong oil it will not function correctly. DO IT RIGHT! Buy the filtercharger kit and READ THE DIRECTIONS!
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Correct! I have been selling K&N filters for almost 15 years and seen some people do some really retarded stuff to them. The holes in the cotton are of a certain size as to facilitate the use of the oil that is designed for it that closes the holes in the filter down to the correct micron size. If you clean it with the wrong stuff you will damage the element. If you use the wrong oil it will not function correctly. DO IT RIGHT! Buy the filtercharger kit and READ THE DIRECTIONS!
In addition, if you have replaced the stock "cold air intake" with a K&N cone type filter you are now sucking in HOT air from inside the engine compartment. Hotter air is less dense. Less dense air will provide lower performance, aside from the argument about the particulate size. This application will not be an improvement.
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I bought a K&N filter for my car 10 months ago and am finally getting around to washing it. The K&N stock cleaning fluid has a familiar smell to it but I cannot remember fimiliar to what? I was wondering what else can be used to safely wash their filters. I was thinking something like Simple Green. I would like to know what other K&N filter users are using to clean their filters?
I just dunk it in a 5 gallon bucket of hot sudsy water and let it sun dry. Then spray a coating of light oil.

As of April I will have had the K&N filter for 5 years and have put on about 30kmi on the 328kmi 617 turbo.
It still starts at 15 degrees with as little as 1 second of glow and has gobs of top end power, relatively speaking.
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I just dunk it in a 5 gallon bucket of hot sudsy water and let it sun dry. Then spray a coating of light oil.

As of April I will have had the K&N filter for 5 years and have put on about 30kmi on the 328kmi 617 turbo.
It still starts at 15 degrees with as little as 1 second of glow and has gobs of top end power, relatively speaking.
What are you using in the sudsy water? Detergent, dish soap?
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