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02-20-2008, 03:58 PM
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Converting 4spd -> 5spd? What gassers had 5 speeds (regardless of fit)
So I had a brilliant idea about converting a 4spd into a 5spd transmission. Finding a gasser 5spd that wouldn't work because of the bellhousing and tossing the internals into a 4spd.... Thoughts? Am I crazy or might it work? FI posted an ebay auction on a busted 4spd with a 5spd od on it. I was thinking about it and suddenly it seems like a much more viable option.
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02-20-2008, 04:24 PM
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I thought that the five speeds had a different tail housing. Since I've never seen a 5er I have no Idea how the different gears are selected either.
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02-20-2008, 04:29 PM
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Just looked at a 5er from a 190e on ebay. The case does look remarkably similar to the 4spd I've got in my garage. Maybe your onto something... I wish I had one to tear apart and have a look see.
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02-20-2008, 04:47 PM
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This has been discussed similarly before. I several years ago, TomJ took both apart and determined that the tailhousing from the later model, 5-speed Getrag-equipped trannys will not swap over to the 4-speed Getrag used in the latrer 240Ds.
I can't find the thread but it's in here somewhere.
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02-20-2008, 05:16 PM
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So the "one piece" design in both 4 and 5 speeds of the later W123 were Getrag?
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02-20-2008, 05:23 PM
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The broken 5 speed on ebay was a bolt on tail end to a early iron 4speed. Not all 5 speeds were Getrags...
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02-20-2008, 05:26 PM
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I know that...
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02-20-2008, 06:41 PM
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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
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