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Old 02-21-2008, 09:26 AM
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Lightbulb W124 Afterglow, Done Right

I know this is beating a dead horse and all, but after farting around looking for a tutorial on how to properly do an afterglow system on my car I found things scattered everywhere. So In this and my ensuing posts this weekend I will, cross your fingers, take picks of my install and report back about my findings.

Thermally switched afterglow done right:

What you'll need:
Qty. 1 Five post relay similar to the Metal OEM ones in fuse box (on my 124 anyway) Terminal 30 and 87a must have connectivity un-energized.
10-15 Feet of wire in a decent gauge 14-16 most likely
Wire cutters/strippers
Zip Ties
Heat Shrink Tube
Soldering Iron
Heat Gun

Obviously this should probably be done on a cool engine with it OFF and the battery DISCONNECTED.

1. Locate the thermal switch on the front of the head near the water outlet and cut the wire running to it.
2. Take the two ends and solder and heatshrink wire leads onto it and run the wires to where ever you feel comfortable putting your relay at. (by the fuse box or someplace outside the heat shield would be preferable.
3. Connect these two wires to terminals 85 and 86 of your relay being sure to slide heat shrink over the wire FIRST to protect the terminal after you solder it.
4. Locate the violet wire for the glow plug kill and cut it.
5. Solder and heat shrink new wire on to both cut ends just as you did with the thermal switch.
6. Connect these two wires to terminals 30 and 87A of your relay being sure to slide heat shrink down the wire FIRST to protect the terminal after it is soldered.
7. Zip tie all wire away from any pinch points and hot spots trying best to follow factory routing (they knew what they were doing why mess with it?)
8. Reconnect the battery and glow the plugs once.
9. To test your relay set up disconnect the wire nearest to the thermal switch and tap it to the head of the engine while it is running. If you have done everything properly you should be able to feel the relay click as you tap it.

This setup will only work if your thermal switch is good!! You may need to check proper function of this prior to starting. Your plugs should also be rated for "Afterglow" or the plug life will decrease dramatically. Pictures to follow pending my installation this weekend. One other note, NEVER USE CRIMP TERMINALS EVER when working on the exterior of the car. They get very poor connectivity to begin with and when you add the fact they aren't weather sealed you are just inviting disaster to the party by using them, so DON'T. Best case would be to have a junk Benz harness laying around and cannibalize it by unsoldering the terminals off of it and using them for the relay. Any questions comments or concerns about this please PM me or email me at ShibbyUTman@hotmail.com

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Old 02-21-2008, 11:37 AM
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whats afterglow?
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:03 PM
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The ability to cycle the glow plugs during cranking/while running to prevent stumbling starts and mass quantities of blue/white smoke.
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I thought that was bad

Sorry I'm a nooB with mercedes and with diesels, but my dad said to never try and start it while it was glowing. Just curious
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:01 AM
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He probably means to wait until it has glowed long enough to start. If you start while the light on the dash is still on, you're not waiting long enough.
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Old 03-10-2008, 01:53 PM
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... I thought you were going to post pics...
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Old 03-10-2008, 01:57 PM
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Taken, not posted, bad forum member, I know. My shop and home are about 90 miles away, and guess where I forgot my camera...
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He probably means to wait until it has glowed long enough to start. If you start while the light on the dash is still on, you're not waiting long enough.

Afterglow means that the relay will keep the glow plugs on, for (X) seconds.

For instance, a 60 Second afterglow, means the relay will keep them on for 60 seconds total, which really helps with cold weather starts.

I just did it to my 83 300CD (most people just do it on the w124s, but I found some parts from europe that will work on the 617 motor), but Im selling my other kit because Im selling my coupes. Pictures are on ebay too. Its easy, it takes like 20 minutes provided you have a soldering gun and some basic tools.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ALCA%3AUS%3A11&viewitem=&item=220211277743

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