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Old 02-28-2008, 03:16 PM
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1999 300D - glow plg and chk engine light on

New to me....1999 300D turbodiesel....I've had about 6 mos., 175Kmiles on the odo.

Today, after starting, the glow plug light came back on after the engine was started, ....then the check engine light also came on.

I'm a decent DIY mechanic, worked a fair amount of VW Vanagons and Subaru engines, but this car and diesels, in general, are all new to me. Not sure where to start.

Need help w/ making diagnosis and deciding if this is a fix I can manage or will I have to take it to a shop.

Suggestions and tips please.

Warren C.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:40 PM
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Probably a bad GP; maybe the relay. You should get the code read. PO380, or P1366,1367 or 1368 are possibilities.

To test yourself, go to dieselgiant.com and then to his tutorial for Checking the W123 GP system and follow the instructions therein.

The write up is not for your engine but everything is still in the same locations and the prinicipals remain applicable.

Search "606 broken (and/or siezed) GP's" here before attempting to change one.
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:45 PM
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ditto to what Terry said, and, when you find you have a bad glow plug be sure you do a thorough search regarding the pitfalls of removing plugs in these engines before you attempt the removal. Long story short, they have a tendancy to get stuck, and when forced, break off in the head. That is bad so you should do everything you can to prevent that from happening.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:17 PM
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I have the same thing right now. Once I start the engine, the GP light & CEL come back on. Car still starts fine, but runs a bit rough for the first minute, with blue smoke.

I just unclipped the harness for the glow plugs, and ran a test light between + and each GP connector. #6 was the only one that didn't light up: dead.

I'm pulling the IM tomorrow after work. Shoudl be fun! I order a GP reamer for Diesel911 the first week he started selling them.

Mine were all changed by the PO 2 years ago, so I'm hoping they're less likely to be seized.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:44 PM
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I'm pulling the IM tomorrow after work. Shoudl be fun! I order a GP reamer for Diesel911 the first week he started selling them.
Sorry to be so new...and dumb...but what's "IM' stand for...see lots of reference to it in threads.

Also can you send me a link to the reamer source. diesel911

Also need a link to the Lightman article on R&Ring glow plugs.

This car was purchased from a dealer, ...no maintenance records, so no idea how long it's been since GPs were replaced.

WC.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:57 PM
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IM=Intake Manifold.

Check the DIY tab above and look under the 606 section for the GP article.

This is the reamer Found under buy parts and then special tools tab above. Reamer must be for the correct engine.
http://www.peachparts.com/diy/mb_tools/mb_tools.php?page=4

An appropriately sized drill bit has been used by some in a pinch.
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