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imagesinthewind 03-21-2008 05:24 PM

Tstat replace, burped, now runs hot, help?
 
Okay, so the greasecar wouldn't get warm for a long time. Unclipped mono and no change so decided it was the tstat. Replaced it today, car warmed up at idle very nicely. Too nicely.
Now at idle it can get over the 100 mark on the gauge.
Burped by putting nose up (drive is uphill so put it in the driveway) and idled for 40 mins or so. Started getting hot at about 20 mins. I turned the defrost on high and that allowed the gauge to go down. But only to just above 80.

Went to pick up the DD, about 8 miles, and the temp gauge went high again. Went lower with the defrost on. But again, not to 80 mark.

I want to drive it tonight to the bar but don't want to overheat on the hwy.

Any other ways to burp?
Thanks

Brian Carlton 03-21-2008 05:35 PM

Remove the upper hose from the radiator and fill the head completely with coolant right to the top of the hose. Quickly reinstall hose.

Drive vehicle.

Problem solved.

ascalise 03-21-2008 06:14 PM

I am having a very similar problem with my 240 that all started when i replaced the radiator hoses. I have not be able to improve it at all since. My car will warm my up in less than 2 minutes. It will run fine then all of the sudden temp just goes up to 115 or so then back down to 100 driving around town. I have noticed temp gauge is pretty erradic. It jumps around a bit sometimes pretty quickly. If i run on the highway for a while i can get it to 90 and it will stay there until i come back to stop and go traffic. Running heater will instantly drop temp to 85-90 but then it will climb back up. I've checked everything. I had the radiator rotted out and cleaned, i flushed the system and put new antifreeze in. Checked for air and doesnt seem to have any in the system. This all started when i changed my radiator hoses. It never once went above 85 degrees prior to that. Also, i have NO leaks. I'm stumped. Sorry for hijacking your thread btw.

Brian Carlton 03-21-2008 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ascalise (Post 1800384)
I'm stumped.

I'm not.

Read post #2.

Follow it.

mobetta 03-21-2008 06:42 PM

did you test the thermo first??

imagesinthewind 03-21-2008 06:55 PM

Thank you Brian.
Problem solved!
Took another 3/4 gallon of coolant!

I'm a girl and still get a bit misty eyed every time you come to my rescue.

Brian Carlton 03-21-2008 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagesinthewind (Post 1800422)
Thank you Brian.
Problem solved!
Took another 3/4 gallon of coolant!

I'm a girl and still get a bit misty eyed every time you come to my rescue.

Good job.

Everybody who has not done this procedure finds the same result........overheating........not enough coolant in the head.

Help is what we do here!

ascalise 03-21-2008 07:04 PM

I dont understand how you can get more coolant in that way. As soon as you tilt it down it will spill out. if i take it off right now i'm sure all lose quite a bit. but, i guess it won't hurt to try.

ascalise 03-21-2008 07:10 PM

Plus, how does it get past the tstat this way?

ascalise 03-21-2008 07:15 PM

Ok, just tried this. As i assumed, the hose was full. I lost more coolant that way from the top of the radiator then i could put in the hose. It took none this way.

Brian Carlton 03-21-2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ascalise (Post 1800430)
I dont understand how you can get more coolant in that way. As soon as you tilt it down it will spill out. if i take it off right now i'm sure all lose quite a bit. but, i guess it won't hurt to try.

You don't understand because you don't realize that you cannot fill the head via the expansion tank. The thermostat is in the way and it prevents filling of the head.

When you fill via the upper hose, the coolant can go nowhere other than into the head..........when the thermostat is closed.

ascalise 03-21-2008 07:19 PM

For one thing, i dont have a tank. I have a 240. Only way the thermostat is open is when its hot and under pressure. How can you get anything past that when its closed?

Brian Carlton 03-21-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ascalise (Post 1800436)
Ok, just tried this. As i assumed, the hose was full. I lost more coolant that way from the top of the radiator then i could put in the hose. It took none this way.

I'd still wager that you've got air in the head. Get the vehicle on an steep upward incline so that the radiator is higher than the head...........and run the engine for 20 minutes.

Then, after it cools, repeat the attempt to fill the upper hose.

ascalise 03-21-2008 07:23 PM

two nights ago i removed the bolt in the thermostat housing after it had been sitting for over 4 hours and coolant shot out of there non stop until i managed to get the bolt started. Wouldn't that indicate that the head is full?

kerry 03-21-2008 07:25 PM

...with the heater on full blast.


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