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Temp gauge not working properly... help?
Okay - this is starting to get on my nerves...
I took the car to Sig's ******** (the only Mercedes shop in Las Vegas that I've seen mentioned on this forum) for some work because I want to get all the bugs worked out before my daughter is born in June. He did a good job on most everything, but when I picked up the car the temp gauge was not working properly. I thought the car was running cool because the temp gauge only read 60-70C, but the car is actually running at proper temperature - it is the gauge that is not reading right. By the next day the temp gauge was completely dead - pegged at the bottom. He just replaced the temp switch (on the manifold between 2nd and 3rd cylinders) but the gauge is still reading low while engine temps are normal. Any idea what else might be causing this problem? Thanks for the help in advance! I hate having to do research for my mechanic - I just wish I could find someone local who is really knowledgeable.
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I would suggest pulling another gauge from a diesel W126. I don't think the ones from the 85 and older diesel W126s will work, since the newer W126 diesels have little lights that give ABS warnings and low windshield washer fluid level warnings.
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Obviously I could be wrong, but I am not sure the gauge is at fault. If the gauge is grounded, the needle pegs at 120. It just does not read correctly from the temp sender.
Could it have something to do with low coolant level? When I started the car the evening after I picked it up, the coolant was low because of my greasecar system - all the air pockets filled and the coolant was low. I filled the coolant tank and it seemed to be okay, but I wonder if it could be related... Any thoughts?
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Try another temp sender....sometimes senders go bad right away. I had a brand new oil pressure sender go completely dead in 2 days.
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Could it have something to do with low coolant level? (See my previous thread) When I started the car the evening after I picked it up, the coolant was low because of my greasecar system - all the air pockets filled and the coolant was low. I filled the coolant tank and it seemed to be okay, but I wonder if it could be related...
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On my 85 617 there are 2 temp sensors on the left side of the engine between the # 1 & #2 glow plug and one between #2 & #3 plug. one is the temp sender & the other is for the temp sender for the glow plugs.
switch the wires, both senders wouldn`t be bad. Don`t know about the 91 350, so just a guess. Charlie ☺
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Anyone else have an idea?
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Are you sure the correct sensor was replaced?
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Yes - when the two contacts on the back of the sensor/sender are grounded, the temp gauge spikes to 120, so I am sure we are working with the correct sensor/sender. Neither the gauge nor the circuit are the problem - the sensor/sender is just not sending the temp to the gauge.
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Autos: 1991 350SD 276,000 miles 2001 VW Beetle TDI 115,000 miles Horns: 1955 Selmer Mark VI Alto (55,xxx) 1958 Selmer Mark VI Tenor (85,xxx) 1964 Selmer Mark VI Tenor (125,xxx) 1967 King Super-20 Tenor (430,xxx) 2002 Selmer Series III Soprano For Jazz Saxophone enthusiasts - check out my website... www.RustyBlevins.com |
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Maybe someone out there can measure the resistance of their sending unit when the engine is cold and when its at full operating temperature.
Then Rusty, you ought to also measure yours. Then compare. Eric (Sax content: Eric, whose F.I.L. played with Louis Prima for 15 years)
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