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Engine number ground off, any other way of IDing it?
I have a '82 240D automatic that I'm trying to find out the engine number to order parts. The PO told me that the engine was swapped for a lower mile (no idea what happened to original engine) unit. I found the location where the engine number should be, but it looks like everything after 616 was ground off. There are marks consistent with a wire wheel on the number area.
According to this post there is also a plate fastened to the block with the number, but doesn't specify the location. Where is the plate usually located? I'm the part I'm stuck on is a thermostat. Going through both engine number selections, it seems the part number is the same. Is there a different in thermostats, or is it just a opening temperature difference? |
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You have an OM616.912
Put your VIN into this place and it will tell you. http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng |
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There is a different seal for the two different types of thermostat. If the thermostat is mounted vertically you have a later type engine, if it is mounted horizontally you have an early engine.
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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver 1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver 1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine |
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Sometimes an acid etch can bring out the numbers.
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I'll have to try that. I cleaned the area with degreaser and it just brought out the gouges better. Its quite clear where the numbers were ground off. If it makes any difference, the number cast into the block forward and below of the stamp site is 616 011 28 011. Which I believe just states that this engine was mated with a manual transmission originally. |
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The Russian site no longer seems to run US type VIN numbers.
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Works on both of mine.
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Don't why but this the error I get:
Datacard for VIN WDBAB33A9EA06835 is not found 1) VIN was misspelled in the request form; 2) VIN was erroneously read from vehicle body or documents; 3) VIN is not of an original vehicle and was forged by criminals; 4) The vehicle was produced in late 2005 or 2006, and is not included yet in our database I used to be able to run it before.
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VIN WDBAB33A9EA068351 (Just a guess, not sure if yours is 1.) Model 300 D TURBO Chassis 1231331A068351 Engine 617952 12 067848 Transmission 722315 02 443001 Order 0 3 705 63984 Approx. year not defined Lights BOSCH Cab 18008 Dealer United States (USA) (705) Interior mb-tex java (154) Paint 473 champagne metallic (с 01.01.1978 по 31.12.1988, с 1994) 54 Unknown code Options 410 electric sliding roof (с 01.03.1965 по 29.02.1988) 440 bumpers with guards, front and rear (с 01.10.1970 по 30.04.1974) bumper with horn and rubber buffer front and rear (с 01.03.1964 по 30.09.1970) tempomat (cruise control) (с 01.09.1975) 451 revolution counter (с 01.12.1972 по 31.10.1993) tachometer power brake (с 01.01.1963 по 30.09.1963) windshield (laminated glass) (с 01.01.1964 по 31.05.1972) 467 central locking system and instruments with english lettering (с 01.04.1970 по 31.10.1993) 461 + 462 + 463 (с 01.07.1968 по 31.08.1969) 494 California version California version (с 01.05.1973 по 31.12.1995) version for USA/California/Canada (с 01.01.1996) 490 + 492 (с 01.12.1966 по 30.09.1967) 504 outside rear view mirror, right, electrically adjustable (с 01.11.1978 по 29.02.1986) outside rear view mirror, right, electrically adjustable (l.h.d.) taxi version, f.r.g, and outside rear view mirror on the right 500 + 503 (с 01.02.1966 по 30.06.1968) 501 + 502 (с 01.08.1968 по 31.10.1974) 519 Becker radio Grand Prix electronic cassette - USA (с 01.08.1980 по 30.11.1990) Becker radio Grand Prix LW/MW/SW/USW - USA (с 01.01.1963 по 29.02.1972) Becker radio Grand Prix stereo MW/USW - USA (с 01.10.1972 по 31.12.1976) Becker radio Mexico Grand Prix, electronic (USA) 531 automatic antenna (с 01.01.1963) 546 lockable glove compartment and sun visors with vanity mirrors on the left and right, illuminated (с 01.03.1982) halogen lamp unit, and seat adapter between the front seats 540 + 541 + 542 (с 01.01.1967 по 31.12.1972) 551 anti-theft warning system (с 01.11.1978 по 31.03.1998) anti-theft/anti-break-in warning system with anti-towing system (с 01.04.1998) steering wheel, ivory-colored (с 01.01.1963 по 31.05.1973) 575 front folding armrest and right front seat with seat height adjustment front folding armrest and headrest, left (с 01.04.1970) 571 + 574 (с 01.01.1963 по 29.02.1968) 588 Thermoking air conditioner and electric window lifters (front doors) (с 01.04.1970 по 31.12.1972) automatic climate control and electric window lifters (front and rear doors) (с 01.01.1977) 593 headlamp flasher and turn signal lamps - italy (с 01.01.1963 по 31.07.1965) headlamp flasher and turn signal lamps, front, crystal clear (с 01.08.1965 по 31.01.1967) heat-insulating glass, rear window pane (с 01.02.1967 по 31.01.1971) heat-insulating glass, all-around, heated rear window pane (single-sheet safety glass), band filter green heat-insulating glass all round, heated rear window, single pane safety glass - tinted strip (с 01.01.1972) 639 radial-ply tires, elimination of warning triangle (с 01.11.1973 по 31.10.1974) elimination of first-aid box and warning triangle (с 01.08.1977) 640 aluminium disc wheels with radial-ply tires (с 01.10.1969 по 31.12.1989) tires with tube (с 01.01.1963 по 31.08.1965) 15-hole light alloy rims (с 01.01.1990) 673 high-capacity battery (с 01.01.1964) 804 Change of year of model, last figure shows new model year |
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Me DUH.
DUH, I didn't realize I left off a number. I cut and pasted from my Car"fact's-less" report.
Some how I left off the last number. Thanks.
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Drive that engine like you stold it. Even if just an accessory after the fact. Some engine rebuilders ground off the block serial numbers. On the otherhand..............
Last edited by barry123400; 03-31-2008 at 12:05 PM. |
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