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Old 12-08-2012, 07:16 PM
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Oh no, does this mean I have to get a new radiator?!

I was leaning over trying to get the lower alternator bolt in when I heard a snap. *****! What can i do with this connector? Do I have to buy a new radiator?

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Old 12-08-2012, 07:20 PM
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You can try and JB weld it but unfortunately I'm 0-1 for JB weld radiator repairs so start budgeting it out... Hard to tell exactly what is broken, that's the overflow nipple to the tank? It will have to hold pressure regardless. At this age a new radiator is not a bad investment.
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:29 PM
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That can be repaired, but JB Weld isn't the answer. You need a nipple of a variety that you can insert fron the inside and bolt up on the outside. A metal tire valve stem comes to mind. You could pull it in with a wire from the upper hose port. Obviously, the valve core would need to be removed. The hole will need to be 7/16" to fit the smaller gasket.

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Old 12-08-2012, 08:14 PM
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Will Crazy Glue have a chance?
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:17 PM
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Maybe...only one way to find out. Its a small surface though so that will limit the bondig surface. To go with qwerty's comment, maybe a male to male air fitting would hold up, or something like that. I'd be concerned about restricted flow and corrosion though.
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Also parts stores usual have plastic vacuum fittings what might fit like a charm. No clue if it would hold up to heating and cooling plus pressure though.
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The tire valve repair has been documented before, several threads on it.
when it is finished, it will not look out of place and will hold.

Doing a bondo, duct tape, bailing wire Mc Giver hack job trying to make do, will cost you more in the long run.

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The plastic is old and brittle. Only a fitting will do the repair.
Search on Radiator recovery for info and some pics on the procedure.
This link may get you there, I think, perhaps, maybe.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/194578-radiator-recovery.html#post1567361
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:42 PM
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I did the same thing on my 82 300SD I used a 1/8'' pipe tap to thread the hole in the radiator and screwed a 1/8PX 1/4'' hose barb fitting into it. Don't try to tighten it very much or you'll crack the plastic tank.
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:41 PM
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when I did that on my wagon, I inserted a brass tube to support the nipple in the tank, then coated the tube, and both broken ends with plastic radiator epoxy from NAPA... worked great for 2 years as a daily driver.
I also covered the repaired part with plastic weld epoxy.
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See what is available in the plumbing supply. Find a barb that is close. Drill to fit & JB it. You may need to go with a larger hose to fit the barb & step down to the current hose.

If it isn't obvious, just order another tank. There is no point in fixing something that is going to come unfixed soon.
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See what is available in the plumbing supply.
That tire valve is pretty pricey at $1.30!!!
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:50 PM
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Assuming you get it fixed, it will still be quite weak and prone to re-breaking. You might want to fab up a u-shaped piece of metal to go over the repaired area to prevent leaning on it and breaking it again.

Every time I work on the car, I'm aware of that little defect and try really hard to avoid leaning on it.
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I assume you still have the old fitting. You might try to take a couple of non-important pieces of the plastic and attempt to locate a glue that will work to hold them together.

I think the old Testers model glue melted the original plastic that would then mix when held together and reharden - kinda like welding iron but instead using plastic.

It's worth a try. You might have to prepare the surfaces with some filing or sanding.

Good luck however you take care of it. If you have success then brag about it with pictures.
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I did the same thing on my 82 300SD I used a 1/8'' pipe tap to thread the hole in the radiator and screwed a 1/8PX 1/4'' hose barb fitting into it. Don't try to tighten it very much or you'll crack the plastic tank.
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That worked for me too. I used some JB Weld on the treads as a sealant. Don't try to tighten it to seal it.

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