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Old 05-19-2008, 09:38 AM
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Why do boost gauges also have vacuum?

Right now I've got a vac/boost gauge for watching the turbo boost. I'm going to switch that gauge to watch the vacuum/pressure on the fuel line to monitor when the filter is getting clogged (more for VO than for diesel). But I like having the boost gauge, so I am going to get another one. For simplicity, I was going to get one that only shows boost, but am I missing something? Is there a reason to have the vacuum portion of the gauge on a diesel?

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Old 05-19-2008, 09:42 AM
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Boost only should be OK on a diesel, the combo gauges are really intended for gassers.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:55 AM
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As far as adapting the vac/boost gauge, I don't see how it can work for what you're trying to monitor. For a vacuum gauge to monitor a filter, you would have to mount it between the suction side of the pump and the filter. Or, it may be mounted between the pressure side of the pump and the filter but it will only register pressure never swinging between both.

Also, to use that gauge to monitor a liquid, you'll need an isolator.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:41 AM
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I guess gas engines have more vacuum in the intake manifold...well I'll go with the boost only gauge.

The VO filter is on the suction side of the lift pump, so that's where the vac gauge tap will go...and I expect it to only read increasing amounts of vacuum as the filter clogs. I could put it between the lift pump and IP and get pressure, I haven't really decided yet, but since the gauge has both, I could put it wherever.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:02 PM
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Diesel engines have no (or at best only a small amount of) vacuum in the intake manifold. This is because diesel engines do not have a throttle plate blocking the air flow into the manifold. In a diesel, the manifold is wide open with the only restriction being the air filter and the ducting. Vacuum in a diesel intake manifold means the air filter is badly stopped up with captured dirt. A turbocharged diesel has greater than atmospheric pressure which can be monitored with a "boost" gauge; a normally aspirated engine has no boost to monitor.

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Old 05-19-2008, 12:35 PM
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I have a combination vac/boost gauge on my car. I do register a slight vacuum when free revving the engine until the turbo spools up. When in gear it doesn't register a vacuum however. I have not tested this with a dirty filter though.

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