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TheDon 05-25-2008 11:31 AM

w123 mirror delete
 
czech it

Before
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...4/IMG_050h.jpg


After

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...hoto0266-1.jpg

looks kinda weird but is better than a useless passenger side mirror. I wonder what my .CD is now. I still want a drivers side block off plate if possible.


the front is a frign brick. I must have scrapped off a million love bugs. I went through a few clouds of them yesturday and my windshield was covered in the remains of them. Plus my wiper fluid bottle leaks!.. so, driving was somewhat a challenge due to my ADD and trying to play connect the dots with dead bugs on the windscreen.


I love my brick with wheels

ImBroke 05-25-2008 11:50 AM

Looks kind of lobsided that way.

Hatterasguy 05-25-2008 11:52 AM

Looks like some kid came by and took it off.:D;)

lutzTD 05-25-2008 12:01 PM

how abut a picture of the side? what does the cover plate look like?

daw_two 05-25-2008 12:20 PM

agreed; looks like your brick is lobsided. I use to live in Orlando and know all about those "love bugs". I often reminded my wife, but it didn't help.:D

Do you need a windshield washer tank that doesn't leak?

Matt L 05-25-2008 12:46 PM

Passenger-side mirrors are only useless if you are like most of the population and point it straight back. You don't need to see the door handles (they're still there, trust me) and you can already see straight back with the inside mirror. Point the mirror further out so you can see the next lane.

I use the passenger side mirror and would never consider removing it.

H-townbenzoboy 05-25-2008 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt L (Post 1865340)
Passenger-side mirrors are only useless if you are like most of the population and point it straight back. You don't need to see the door handles (they're still there, trust me) and you can already see straight back with the inside mirror. Point the mirror further out so you can see the next lane.

I use the passenger side mirror and would never consider removing it.

Yep, and here's the proper way to aim those mirrors.

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/mirrors/

Jeremy5848 05-25-2008 01:21 PM

Yeah, lopsided. I do like the headlights, though.

Craig 05-25-2008 02:32 PM

I frequently use my right side mirror, which is properly adjusted to see the lane to the right. Besides, I don't like the "single mirror" look.

omegabenz 05-25-2008 02:48 PM

Griot's garage makes a product called "bug off" and I am going to try it next week sometime when I get it. Ill let you know how it works.

You can add convex lenses to both sides, then they are really nice. You may get a ticket for missing the wing mirrors. Of course for photoshoots that is different.

The w124 with the rectangle and square mirror always throws off the symmetry, but we know why they did it.

bgkast 05-25-2008 03:05 PM

Can I have your passenger mirror? :D

You can have my block-off plate.

pizzachef 05-25-2008 03:07 PM

I use the right side mirror ALL THE TIME, the 240 doesn't have one and I'm on the hunt for one. Its so easy for a motorcycle (or even a miata) to hide in your blind spot. My old GF didn't use her right side mirror and turned around every time she changed lanes to the right. It made mecringe every time and once she almost ran over a tire in the road because she had to look behind her for a second. I'd pick something less functional to remove...which, refreshingly, there's not much of on these cars.

JimmyL 05-25-2008 03:20 PM

Most folks without a passenger mirror pay semi-handsomely in order to get one. And you seem to be pleased to have removed yours. Well, you've always been kind of a "different guy" on here, but not in a bad way. But that looks just awful compared to mirrors on both sides. Symmetry is a wonderful thing.........

dieselchatter 05-25-2008 08:17 PM

Isn't it funny how different we are? I drove my 1977 300D for several years without a right side mirror as that is the way it came. I complaining to my Mechanic about the lack of a right side mirror. Within a couple of months he produced a manual right side mirror. Now I'm my kind of happy.

Magoo 05-25-2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig (Post 1865387)
I frequently use my right side mirror, which is properly adjusted to see the lane to the right. Besides, I don't like the "single mirror" look.

Right on.
Why would you want to remove it??

TheDon 05-25-2008 11:12 PM

Bah.. I am different lol.

Here is why I removed it. I learned to drive without a mirror on that side since my first car came without one. I have my main rear view mirror aimed to spot the right side since I use my left side rear view mirror to watch those blind spots. The glass on my old mirror is total crap, it has black spots all over it and nothing will remove them as well as the heavy scratches.

In other cars I have driven with a passenger side mirror I would aim it to it viewed to the left of the rear quarter panel and up into the other lane. This mirror wouldn't adjust to there. frankly, I've never used that mirror, always the main one and checked my blind spots.
I didn't like how it aimed and to my understanding the passenger side mirror is a weak point in these cars, other than the horrible "sun visors" that don't block the sun at all.

I can tell you this, when ever I change lanes I always look over and check my blind spots .

I'm going to keep my mirror in case I feel like getting new convex glass for it and w/e.


I will agree it does look lopsided.. and it is weird. But at least I can play it off as "weird german engineering" since I put the correct block off plate.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74.../Photo0267.jpg

the block off plate.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyL (Post 1865415)
Most folks without a passenger mirror pay semi-handsomely in order to get one. And you seem to be pleased to have removed yours. Well, you've always been kind of a "different guy" on here, but not in a bad way. But that looks just awful compared to mirrors on both sides. Symmetry is a wonderful thing.........


classic. Screw Symmetry....

bgkast 05-25-2008 11:23 PM

Only one of my 4 W123s have come with a passenger mirror,

TheDon 05-25-2008 11:27 PM

I was taught to drive without the mirror and I Find that the w123 doesn't have that many blind spots. Eagleco's roadster has... no blind spots.. lol


Plus I am trying some aeromods out and alot of the guys delete the external mirror for more of a streamlined body. But they do add convex mirrors on the inside of the car that do work very well. I'll be picking one up soon as I can find the right one.


now you've got me all worried I'm going to die without the mirror.

winmutt 05-25-2008 11:52 PM

Why in gods name would you remove the pass mirror? Put it back man thats just awful.

ForcedInduction 05-25-2008 11:59 PM

Mine came without a passenger mirror and I don't miss it at all. If I want to change lanes, I'll use a bit of energy and turn my head to look over there.

The only time I dearly missed having one was when I parallel parked on the left side of a one-way street. I quickly learned not to do that again. :D

t walgamuth 05-26-2008 12:05 AM

I like having one on the right but I actually seldom use it.

I suspect it might be worth a half mile per gallon though. And a mile per hour top speed.;)

Tom W

TheDon 05-26-2008 12:08 AM

I'll keep driving with it off this week and think about putting it back on and try the adjusting thing.

I can tell you this. If I do aeromods, the hood star stays.. I don't care if it would save me 20 mpg by removing it, it stays!

winmutt 05-26-2008 12:11 AM

I too rarely use it but when some jackhole cuts you off it makes the difference between a new front end and a safer quick lane change.

TheDon 05-26-2008 12:15 AM

the glass is really messed up on the old mirror, I can barely see any thing in it... I tried to remove the mirror glass from a junk yard car but I didn't know how to... Its probably easy as pie.

bgkast 05-26-2008 12:36 AM

I think it just pops off a ball joint inside the housing

TheDon 05-26-2008 12:39 AM

I didn't want to pull on it hard and have it shatter in my hand, that would be a fun drive to the hospital( it would probably be faster than waiting for an ecnalubma since the junk yard is in the middle of BFE)

vstech 05-26-2008 01:17 AM

at least if you broke the glass, you would have been able to see your right side traffic during the drive to the emergency room...

TheDon 05-26-2008 09:47 AM

bah

yellowbenz 05-26-2008 11:51 AM

I don't think there is a blind spot with these cars. It's like driving in a glass bubble compared to modern cars. I remember when the right side mirror was an option and most cars drove without them. Amazing how many cars have backup cameras and displays because the rearward vision is so poor.

Craig 05-26-2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowbenz (Post 1866046)
I don't think there is a blind spot with these cars. It's like driving in a glass bubble compared to modern cars. I remember when the right side mirror was an option and most cars drove without them. Amazing how many cars have backup cameras and displays because the rearward vision is so poor.

True, when was the last time you saw a mini-van without dents in the back?

TheDon 05-26-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1865724)
Mine came without a passenger mirror and I don't miss it at all. If I want to change lanes, I'll use a bit of energy and turn my head to look over there.

Which is exactly what I do...

you guys are going to love this

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...hoto0268-1.jpg


stage two is unfolding....

SD Blue 05-26-2008 12:14 PM

I wouldn't think of driving without both mirrors. About the time I "exert energy" to turn my head to change lanes is when the driver in front of me abruptly puts on the brakes and usually to change to the same lane. Besides that there are so many people out there with the very poor , and annoying, driving habit of "camping out" in blind spots. Granted, they are smaller on the MB but it seems they always can find them.

I bet there is considerably more aerodynamic drag from the wheels than that mirror would ever produce.

TheDon 05-26-2008 01:11 PM

I'd never drive without both mirrors as it is against the law. What could be done is use interior mounted convex mirrors. A good amount of the guys on ecomodder have those setups and have not had any issues.

ForcedInduction 05-26-2008 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1866130)
I'd never drive without both mirrors as it is against the law.

Not on cars 25+ years old.

lutzTD 05-26-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1866064)
Which is exactly what I do...

you guys are going to love this

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...hoto0268-1.jpg


stage two is unfolding....


i thought you were going to skirt the rear fenders?, nevermind, saw the other post

TheDon 05-26-2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1866135)
Not on cars 25+ years old.

Eva is only.. 23 this year. Guy in my neighborhood has a model T hot rod sans mirrors ( except a rear view on the dash)... It's like sitting on a milk crate with big wheels to the back of you and a loud engine in front...

bgkast 05-26-2008 02:23 PM

It looks like a salt flat racer. :D You should have kept the lowering springs. ;)

TheDon 05-26-2008 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 1866191)
It looks like a salt flat racer. :D You should have kept the lowering springs. ;)

dude.. I should paint it flat black and put flames... lol

I know.. I should have kept them, but I needed spare cash to go to my alumni association volunteer effort thing.

I do want to polish all 4 when I buy more of them. I need to get the wheels rebalanced and have stick on weights installed as well as find some extra center caps. Maybe find a set of spare springs, and chop some off.

pawoSD 05-26-2008 02:54 PM

I use that mirror all the time.....then again I have a 126....and they ALL came with both mirrors. :D

spamman450 05-26-2008 05:17 PM

I don't have a passenger side mirror on my 240D. I have never missed it, or felt like i needed it. the car has very little blind spots. If it was a 126 it would be a different matter....

DieselGrrl 05-26-2008 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1866064)
Which is exactly what I do...

you guys are going to love this

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...hoto0268-1.jpg


stage two is unfolding....

sorry but...what is up with that back hub cap? UGLY.

i dont care how many pennies it saves me in gas mileage, i rather be driving a good lookin car
if thats your concern, why dont you just get a honda or something?

lutzTD 05-26-2008 09:27 PM

give me a MB over a tin can econo box any day. if he can get 35 mpg thats awesome. hes the only one that has to be happy with the looks

Mark DiSilvestro 05-26-2008 10:51 PM

Except for my Fintail, every car that I've acquired in the past 7 years either came with righthand mirrors, or I added them. My '60 Fintail 220S doesn't have one, only because I didn't find one to fit it. I added righthand mirrors (with good glass) to both my 240Ds, use them often and wouldn't think about doing without.

Happy Motoring, Mark

TheDon 05-26-2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutzTD (Post 1866503)
give me a MB over a tin can econo box any day. if he can get 35 mpg thats awesome. hes the only one that has to be happy with the looks

totally, although I have a friend with a geo metro xfi with a bad clutch I might be able to buy off him. Either I replace the clutch and just mod that or... make it into an electric car like I have been wanting to do.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselGrrl (Post 1866486)
sorry but...what is up with that back hub cap? UGLY.

i dont care how many pennies it saves me in gas mileage, i rather be driving a good lookin car
if thats your concern, why dont you just get a honda or something?

have you seen the markup on honda's lately. If you were in the loop last year you would know these 80's diesels were in high demand. Now they are not and high mpg econoboxes are. We'll see who is laughing when my car is doing laps around yours.

plus, the correct term is... wheel cover.


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