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Is this possable
so i have two OM617 Turbo engine, while i was sitting in my shop i had a crazy idea of combining two of my OM617 engine together to make a 6.0 V10 OM617, i aware of lost of money is reqired and needs a ton of modification but, after all if mercedes can take two mercedes I6 gasser engine and combine to make a V12... then again... what do you guys think...
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Custom block, custom crank, custom IP, custom manifolds, ... where does it end? You're basically creating a whole new engine with existing pistons and rods, not sure the counter-flow heads of the 61x lend themselves to a V configuration either, so possibly custom heads.
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good luck welding 2 cast iron blocks together. Even so, matching their angles to the crankshaft to have perfectly balanced engine would never happen. How do you plan on machining the the main hold-downs for the crank?
you would be much further ahead putting each engine on its own axle. or having an entire block cast to your specs. |
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Chain or gear the flywheels together and make an H-10.
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^^ that would cause issues with mating system unless they are mated via fluid (like an auto trans). I doubt he is going to find to equally opertaing 617's from 198x.
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Go for a custom crankshaft and make a straight 10! That would be cool (and long) In any case I bet getting the two IPs and two turbos to work together would be a nightmare...
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Just connect them end-to-end and make a I-10, you might have to extend the hood a little.
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Its been done before with extreme power sled pullers so it should be possible with two 120hp engines.
No reason you couldn't do something like below vvvv |
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"Where there's a will, there's a way."
You might get it to work, but there's little chance you'll get it to fit in your engine compartment.
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That would be incredible, imagine the sound/power! 260ish hp....385ish lb/ft torque......and about 12-13mpg...
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Anything is possible with enough money and knowledge.
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Heres whacha do. Remove the heads and put the blocks togather so the pistons meet in the middle making an OP (opposed piston) engine like the old "Fairbanks Morris" (sp?) marine engines. You would save quite a bet not having heads
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Well I10 is easy but it wont fit, H10 Unbalanced and wont fit due to its with, i could see that size is the matter, hmmm... how about two OM616 combining them to make a 4.2L
V8, a tad easier but still a ton money is required...and sorry engine is not for sale keeping it for a other benz that dont have engines or if my engine goes, pop!
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2.4*2 does not = 4.2
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So it would be like a very weak M120, or a the newer bi turbo 12 running on one bank.
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