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Old 06-16-2008, 05:33 PM
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Is there anything that can be done with a car with NO Title?

There was an SD on Craigslist today for $500. It was in great shape for an 83 and said it ran well.

BUT... it said it had no title and had to be used for parts.

Can you get a title for a car with that kind of story behind it?

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Old 06-16-2008, 06:19 PM
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There was an SD on Craigslist today for $500. It was in great shape for an 83 and said it ran well.

BUT... it said it had no title and had to be used for parts.

Can you get a title for a car with that kind of story behind it?
If it has legit history and you spent the time to prove it and go through the paperwork, yes.

Generally though its a complicated process, talk to your DMV about what is involved.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:23 PM
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In NC you can buy an indemnity bond for 1.5 times the value of the car, fill out the paperwork and get a title. It's not much of a hassle and the fee is not that high.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:24 PM
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As long as its not stolen and you get a legal bill of sale from the guy, filing for a lost title is easy.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:26 PM
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The car presumably once had a title, right? Perhaps it was de-titled after an accident, something that made it unsafe to drive? Your state should have a procedure that allows you to "put the car back on the road" by fixing whatever problems caused it to be de-listed and then going through an inspection to prove the car is safe. I once did this in California with a motorcycle; the hard part was finding a place that could "certify" a rebuilt motorcycle. Turned out there were only three in the entire San Francisco Bay area.

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Old 06-16-2008, 07:17 PM
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A lot of states also have a process whereby you can get a "Sheriff's title" when the owner-signed original is unobtainable (they've skipped out and can't be reached for example).

As I understand it, in WA you can apply for a Sheriff's title, and they do the nationwide VIN check to make sure it isn't stolen or totalled. They then allow you to register it in your name. After two years, if no one has reported it stolen or totalled, they issue you a new title.

If during that 2 year wait the original owner shows up and makes a claim on it or reports it stolen, then you have to go to court and show that they abandoned it. Then the state will issue the new title basd on that judgement.

During the two years wait it is kinda' hard to sell a vehicle with a Sheriff's title if the buyer knows what it means - because of the possiblility of the original owner placing a claim on it and it being harder for the buyer to prove that it was abandoned without getting you (the person who applied for the Sherff's title) to go to court with them.

It reduces the value of the car during that first two years - a lot like a salvage title. But if you're planning on keeping it until the 2 years are up, its no big deal. 99.9% of the time the previous owner never tries to make a claim on the car anyway - its past history to them...
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Scrap Title.

If it has a "Scrap Title", then it cannot be put back on the road legally. This is normally the case for many junkyard cars, but is not common for privately owned vehicles.

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Old 06-16-2008, 11:45 PM
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Does the seller have a registration slip in his/her name? Any other proof of outright/lien-free ownership?

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Old 06-17-2008, 08:16 AM
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Missing Titles / Applying for a Duplicate Title

If you applied for your title two weeks ago or more and wish to check the status of your application, please use our online inquiry form.
If you are planning either to buy or sell a vehicle and the vehicle’s title is missing, the owner of the vehicle must apply for a duplicate title. The sale is not valid without a properly assigned title. If the title has been mutilated or otherwise ruined, the owner of the vehicle must apply for a duplicate title in order for the sale to proceed.
If your title has been lost, mutilated, or destroyed, you may apply for a duplicate title.
To apply for a duplicate title, you must submit:

  1. An Application for Missouri Title and License (DOR-108), completed in full and signed, including the following:
    1. Indicate a Missouri address;
    2. Mark the block labeled "DUPLICATE" at the top of the form to indicate you are applying for a duplicate title;
    3. Complete the notary information near the bottom of the form, where it is marked "Notary-Dup. Title Only," and indicate the reason you need the duplicate;
    4. Have the form notarized. Your signature must be witnessed by a notary public, and the notary must complete the notarization box in the block marked "Duplicate Title Only";
    5. If you are applying for a duplicate title because your original title was mutilated, you must return the mutilated title with your application for a duplicate;
    6. If the title is to be mailed to an address other than that indicated in the owner's portion of the application, and no lien (loan) is indicated, please place an "X" in the "Mail To" block and write or type that address in the space provided. A title may be mailed to an address other than that indicated in the owner's portion of the application if there is only one lien (loan) indicated.
  2. If applicable, a notarized Lien Release (DOR-4809) is required.
  3. Submit an $8.50 duplicate title fee and a $2.50 processing fee.
You may submit your application and fees to your local contract office, or to the Motor Vehicle Bureau, 301 West High Street, Room 370, P.O. Box 100, Jefferson City, MO, 65105-0100.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:08 PM
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Thanks everyone for the responses. If a deal like this pops up again I may take the risk. That SD sold in like 1 hour of being on Craigslist. Seemed like a great deal! Great shape and the owner said it ran great. Oh well. More will come up.
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:22 PM
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Missing Titles / Applying for a Duplicate Title

If you applied for your title two weeks ago or more and wish to check the status of your application, please use our online inquiry form.
If you are planning either to buy or sell a vehicle and the vehicle’s title is missing, the owner of the vehicle must apply for a duplicate title. The sale is not valid without a properly assigned title. If the title has been mutilated or otherwise ruined, the owner of the vehicle must apply for a duplicate title in order for the sale to proceed.
If your title has been lost, mutilated, or destroyed, you may apply for a duplicate title.
To apply for a duplicate title, you must submit:

  1. An Application for Missouri Title and License (DOR-108), completed in full and signed, including the following:
    1. Indicate a Missouri address;
    2. Mark the block labeled "DUPLICATE" at the top of the form to indicate you are applying for a duplicate title;
    3. Complete the notary information near the bottom of the form, where it is marked "Notary-Dup. Title Only," and indicate the reason you need the duplicate;
    4. Have the form notarized. Your signature must be witnessed by a notary public, and the notary must complete the notarization box in the block marked "Duplicate Title Only";
    5. If you are applying for a duplicate title because your original title was mutilated, you must return the mutilated title with your application for a duplicate;
    6. If the title is to be mailed to an address other than that indicated in the owner's portion of the application, and no lien (loan) is indicated, please place an "X" in the "Mail To" block and write or type that address in the space provided. A title may be mailed to an address other than that indicated in the owner's portion of the application if there is only one lien (loan) indicated.
  2. If applicable, a notarized Lien Release (DOR-4809) is required.
  3. Submit an $8.50 duplicate title fee and a $2.50 processing fee.
You may submit your application and fees to your local contract office, or to the Motor Vehicle Bureau, 301 West High Street, Room 370, P.O. Box 100, Jefferson City, MO, 65105-0100.
That would work if the seller is the same person that is shown as owner on the title. If that were the case I doubt that the seller would be practically giving it away - he'd almost certainly pay $8.50 to get a title and then be able to sell it for what it is really worth.

99% chance that the person selling it didn't have (and couldn't get) a clear title - which is why it was advertised as a parts car. In which case following the steps outlined above would only get a new title sent to the last person who had the title transferred into their name. That wouldn't help much - in fact it might get that person to looking for the car...
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That would work if the seller is the same person that is shown as owner on the title. If that were the case I doubt that the seller would be practically giving it away - he'd almost certainly pay $8.50 to get a title and then be able to sell it for what it is really worth.

99% chance that the person selling it didn't have (and couldn't get) a clear title - which is why it was advertised as a parts car. In which case following the steps outlined above would only get a new title sent to the last person who had the title transferred into their name. That wouldn't help much - in fact it might get that person to looking for the car...

Yes, thats for just getting a duplicate title printed, not for recovering a lost title.

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