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Old 06-19-2008, 10:14 PM
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Diesel Tiny Tach

The diesel Tiny Tach sold here is http://www.tinytach.com/tinytach/diesel.php is superb, They have updated the design and it no longer uses an internal battery, it uses 12V power, and updates much more frequently than previously.

The 6mm transducer is the correct one for our vehicles,

I cant recommend this product highly enough, its superb. If you need a tach for your 240D this is it.


Check out my comming diesel SEC buildup thread for pics of it in action.

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Old 06-21-2008, 08:46 AM
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sorry, so how does it attach? Particularly on a car with no dash tach?

It would be nice for troubleshooting and adjustment... plus the hour meter is good for operating metrics.

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Old 06-21-2008, 11:22 AM
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the old version was BS, the internal battery lasted <1 year, (prolly due to the hi temps inside the car.) I started out loving it and ended up cursing it.

It has a transducer that connects to one of your injector hardlines and it counts the pulses and displays your rpm.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:35 PM
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I did not want to buy it untill they updated the refresh rate and its lifespan, now it works great. It connects to any injector hardline, it seems to be very accurate. mine is mounted inside the gauge cluster, where the tach/clock was.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:48 PM
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So nobody has a pic of their's.....
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:50 PM
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Wow that looks like a very simple install. Too bad they don't have an analog gauge to match the rest of the car gauges. Either way for $100 it seems like a great addition.
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:09 PM
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For $100 it would be cheaper, easier and much more stock looking to get all the tach parts from a junkyard car and buy techguy's amp.
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:36 PM
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Would the 6mm transducer work for my 190D? The injector lines seem smaller than the 240D. Hope its not to dumb of a question.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:29 PM
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injector line size should be 6mm, but measure with a caliper for sure,

And Forced, Its not always easier to go with a stock solution, I have an engine from an 85, a bellousing for a 240D, and alot of custom work, The tiny tach is better than a stock solution for me.

Maybe not for you, but you can read your rpm in 10 rpm increments.

With the hour meter feature if i ever have to lend my car I can tell exactly how long the engine was run for

This is the perfect solution for any engine swap situation where you cant get a stock tach solution to work.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:45 PM
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And Forced, Its not always easier to go with a stock solution, I have an engine from an 85, a bellousing for a 240D, and alot of custom work, The tiny tach is better than a stock solution for me.
None of which matters one bit, the stock tach system from a 300SD will install for you just as easily. Your engine already has the crank sensor mount and reference pin on the vibration damper. All you have to do is put in the pickup sensor, amp, tach from an 81-84 300SD, run two wires between the amp and gauge, attach the ground wire and connect the power wire to any switched 12V power source.

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Maybe not for you, but you can read your rpm in 10 rpm increments.
Nobody needs that level of accuracy. 50-100rpm accuracy is more than good enough.

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This is the perfect solution for any engine swap situation where you cant get a stock tach solution to work.
There is no situation where the stock tach cannot be added or made to work in a W123 or W126 diesel.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:58 PM
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I considered that option, however All the tach amps I had were flaky, I did notice that there are new ones available, however, I decided the tiny tach was a better option for me.

I also have a gps system mounted right on my gauge cluster, so the digital tach was better for me,

to each his own..

Also the 617 can be swapped into other vehicles than the W126 and W123, and w124
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:47 AM
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Also the 617 can be swapped into other vehicles than the W126 and W123, and w124
As can the tach system. MB did a great job not building it into or depending on other systems to operate.
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Old 06-22-2008, 07:28 AM
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What is the principle of operation of the transducer??
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Old 06-22-2008, 07:32 AM
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Every time the injection pump pumps fuel the injection tubes expand a tiny bit. It senses that expansion somewhat like a g@sser tach would sense an electric pulse through a plug wire.
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:16 AM
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Every time the injection pump pumps fuel the injection tubes expand a tiny bit. It senses that expansion somewhat like a g@sser tach would sense an electric pulse through a plug wire.
Thank you for this. It is probably a piezo electric transducer then since it senses pressure......

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