Where can I get an IP rebuilt?
 

I am having NO luck finding an IP for a 602 so I was wondering if anyone knows who rebuilds them, and maybe how much it would cost?

Bosch Service Centers or Gus Phister Pacific Coast Fuel(?) located in the Bay Area, CA.

~$1,000.

Gus quoted me $1200 to rebuild a 603 IP six months ago.

oh lord, i may as well just buy a car!

Have you tried the junkyard searches like car-part.com, etc?
There's got a to be a few totaled models of your car out there waiting to have the ip pulled. I've also had luck finding a yard that lists another part for a car, then calling them and asking if they have the specific part I need. Sometimes these places don't list every single part on the car.
Good luck, 1200 to rebuild an IP sure is an investment.

maybe post a want ad in parts??

someone's bound to have one.

Is that the 2.5 turbo five cylinder? If it is I sold a good, used ip for one of those to someone on this forum a few months ago. I will see if I can find the correspondence in it's regard and will post it if I still have it. He purchased it to keep on the shelf as a "spare" and may be willing to let it go.

edit - I looked through old correspondence and was unable to find our communications during the transaction. If I remember correctly he was in the Northwest US area.

Maybe you could buy the whole engine from a search on car-part.com. Probably cheaper to get the whole thing and then just pull the pump and part the rest out yourself.

maybe try Adsit.com or E bay or Sunvalley auto salvage..

Phil can get you one, or any diesel Bosch shop can rebuild it. Figure around a G note.

805 is the going rate to get it rebuilt at adsit.com. none of the other places had one. I had also considered buying the whole engine, but hell i couldnt even find one of those. I was fortunate and found one on ebay that the seller says had been tested. they gave a 90 day warranty on it. got it for $400.

Bosch Service
 

There is a Bosch place not very far from you.....somewhere down there between Charleston and Nitro.....

Do a search here, I've posted the link several times......

I have spoken to them on the phone, and they were very helpfil and recommended KSD Diesel in Clarksburg so that I would not have to drive 100 miles......they also recommended a couple of John Deere places that rebuild FI Pumps.....

SB

Hi
 

If you're still looking, PM sent.

well im back to square 1! The IP I bought on ebay, the same one that had the claim that was tested and worked, was in fact, DOA. First sign was the throttle lever (or whatever its called) felt like it was dragging on the inside when you moved it. Had no recoil either. Then the mechanic called today and gave me the bad news. SO, now I am on the hunt again. I am going to check some places to get them rebuilt, and hope the guy I bought this one from doesnt try to jack me around, but if anyone knows of any out there, please let a brotha know.

Anyone in the market for an IP that needs rebuilt?

Bosch in West "by God".....
 

Here's the link to the Bosch Service Center location page.....

http://www.boschservice.com/ServiceLocations/DieselServiceCenter/

And here is the place that I mentioned in an earlier reply.....whooppsssss....looks like the place that used to be listed in St. Albams is no longer a Bosch place......and I only phoned them once so I don't have the address......

Try phoning KSD Diesel in Clarksburg.......624-7452

The Bosch Shop in St. Albans sent me to KSD.......and I have used their services a couple of times.....they are not an "official" Bosch Shop any lomger because Bosch did not support them with the "new" computerized FI components.....as far as testing equipment and software goes......

But.....KSD can and will rebuild your FI pump but I don't know what they charge......

SB

How do you know your original is dead?

The only way these usually get messed up with normal use (from wearing out) with under 300k or probably even a good bit higher than that, is by someone messing up a delivery valve o-ring job.

I'd make sure your mechanic properly diagnosed your problem.

Describe your symptoms if you haven't yet. (ok EDIT: sorry I just looked at your other threads). But I'm still always hesitant to believe that any mechanic who hasn't worked regularly or at least a good amount on 60x engine injection pumps even has a clue about the torque specs of the delivery valves. I would ask whoever it was who worked on your o-rings. Put them on the spot and make them tell you what torques they set the D.V.s at. If it wasn't 22 -loosen- 22 -loosen- 26 lb.ft (or 30-30-35 Nm). I would hold them accountable for the repair and for the cost of a replacement IP.

Before I knew anything about the sensitivity of these IP's an import diesel shop (mostly VW diesel, and lots of MB) ruined mine. They didn't pay for it. I knew they ruined it but I had no idea why or how to argue or prove that they did. Now I know...

I really would quiz your mechanic. Just because they are a good mechanic and can fix most diesel problems doesn't mean they read the directions (very specific) on how to change Delivery Valve O-rings.

Food for thought... at our MB dealership, only ONE tech (a 60 something year old experienced and sharp guy) is allowed to do work on delivery valve o-rings. He said others have tried it and he's been the only one so far to get the job done with a running car at the end.

The pump actually has 2 holes in the bottom of it.

How did you put two holes in the bottom of the IP?

Something that's always confused me is the price of re-builds on things like IP's. I wonder if it's anything like an auto tranny rebuild where they charge you $1200 to do it but in reality, it's not that difficult a job and the price is high because everyone is intimidated by the presumed complexity of it.

Once you have some training is it all that hard or are the shops trying to pay off all the expensive test equipment they bought to do the job? I'm not opposed to a place making a profit but sometimes it's excessive...

Cost of Test Equipment.....
 

I don't know offhand what a "new" FI Calibration/Test bench costs, but it seems to me that I heard $35,000 for a used one.......a good shop will have several......

After I retired I took a job as a FI Tech at a Bosch Shop in Florida. There is a huge overhead in that business......I would highly recommend that any of y'all who are interested, visit a FI Shop and ask the counterperson if you can have the $5.00 tour.....a good shop will have a good inventory of FI Pumps and Injectors.....a lot of shops also do Turbochargers.....

SB

I will try and get some pics on here, but i never have any luck with that, but it looks like some type of ball bearing broke loose on the inside and put 2 holes clean through the housing. I say ball bearings cause 1 is still lodged in one of the holes.

Can you find the holes???
 

Better yet, can you believe someone sold this as a GOOD, WORKING IP???

Wow! Someone sold that! That's amazing! Are you able to get your money back?

What about your original IP? What is the status on that? I think I'd read that you weren't getting fuel on two Delivery Valves. Was this before or after the O-rings were changed or both?

I am still waiting to hear abut the status of a refund. The initial response was it came off of a working car.

As for the fuel delivery, it was both before and after. :( I am taking my old pump to see about having it rebuilt.

IP's are quite simple, you just need a $50k Bosch bench tester, and the knowledge of how to use it, to check one out.