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ForcedInduction 09-29-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lowriderdog37 (Post 1978687)
If they don't interchange, I wonder if some of the internal gears could be swapped to fix the ratio.

That would fix the odometer but the speedometer uses a magnetic barrel to drive the speedo needle.

Cervan 09-29-2008 11:00 PM

swap the gear out of the tail housing on the transmissions.

bgkast 09-29-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cervan (Post 1979082)
swap the gear out of the tail housing on the transmissions.

That's not how the speedos are calibrated in these cars.

ForcedInduction 09-30-2008 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cervan (Post 1979082)
swap the gear out of the tail housing on the transmissions.

The transmission drive is identical in all of MB's models. What changes is the speedometer calibration based on the differential ratio.

Alberta Luthier 09-30-2008 12:41 AM

So you probably want to get the speedo out of the car you get the diff from. Or if you are feeling very generous drive around with your speedo way off and sell the speedo to me (if it came out of a car with a 2.47, it was already gone out of the car my diff came out of)

DeliveryValve 09-30-2008 02:13 AM

Unfortunately the speedo on a w126 2.47 ratio is electronic and will not work on a w123 except the 1981 TD.

ForcedInduction 09-30-2008 03:18 AM

Then swap the tailhousing from a W126 300SD.

Alberta Luthier 09-30-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DeliveryValve (Post 1979249)
Unfortunately the speedo on a w126 2.47 ratio is electronic and will not work on a w123 except the 1981 TD.

I could easily be wrong but I think they went electronic in about 85 (when they also changed the diff mounts) and the ones before (I don't know how long before) were interchangeable.

rudolfgreen 10-01-2008 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 85300DT (Post 1976375)
You may be able to use the rear diff from a w116 450se/sel. That's a 2.65. The 617.952 can push a 2.47 gear, you will need to downshift manually if you need to pass or climb a grade.

anybody have any idea what w116 years we are talking? put close to 10k on the 2.47 and it is outstanding..
but it has been just a little bit tall, and need to be watching the speed.:D the xcntry cruise was exceptional though.:thumbsup:

DeliveryValve 10-01-2008 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rudolfgreen (Post 1980354)
anybody have any idea what w116 years we are talking? put close to 10k on the 2.47 and it is outstanding..
but it has been just a little bit tall, and need to be watching the speed.:D the xcntry cruise was exceptional though.:thumbsup:

Not sure on the years, but here is a reference list of potential diffs found in this thread

R107
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380SL,SLC RATIO 1:2.47

380SL,SLC,560SL RATIO 1:2.47 ABS

450SL,SLC RATIO 1:2.65

450SL,SLC RATIO 1:3.06

W116
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280S,SE RATIO 1:3.69

300SD RATIO 1:3.07

450SE.SEL RATIO 1:3.06

450SE.SEL RATIO 1:2.65

W123
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230,240D RATIO 1:3.69

280E RATIO 1:3.58

300D RATIO 1:3.46

300DT 85 RATIO 1:2.88

300DT TO 84 RATIO 1:3.07

W126
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300SD 85 RATIO 1:2.88 ABS

300SD TO 85 RATIO 1:3.07

300SDL RATIO 1:2.88 ABS

300SE,SEL RATIO 1:3.46

380,500 RATIO 1:2.47

380,500,560SEL RATIO 1:2.47 ABS

420SEL RATIO 1:2.47

W124
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260E RATIO 1:3.27

300D 1987 RATIO 1:2.65

300E RATIO 1:3.07



Side Note.. I believe the 2.65 is a LSD, 2.47 off a 420SEL and 560SEL is a LSD and 3.27 from some W124 are LSDs.

lowriderdog37 10-01-2008 09:27 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but everything on the list except for the w126 and the w124 will work on the w123 right?

DeliveryValve 10-01-2008 04:02 PM

My understanding is w116, early r107s, and first generation w126 (diesels versions are direct plug in and play) would mount up to the w123, but may require change of flange to accommodate the w123 flex disk and has to be mounted with a slight tilt to get a proper angle for the driveshaft. . All W124 and later generation w126 will not work because of different mounting.

DeliveryValve 10-01-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberta Luthier (Post 1979476)
I could easily be wrong but I think they went electronic in about 85 (when they also changed the diff mounts) and the ones before (I don't know how long before) were interchangeable.

True to some extent, but actually all w126 are electronic. All w123s are most likely cable driven except the '81 TD and all w116 is cable driven.

rudolfgreen 10-02-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliveryValve (Post 1980891)
My understanding is w116, early r107s, and first generation w126 (diesels versions are direct plug in and play) would mount up to the w123, but may require change of flange to accommodate the w123 flex disk and has to be mounted with a slight tilt to get a proper angle for the driveshaft. . All W124 and later generation w126 will not work because of different mounting.

Anybody else have any more info on this (specifically to the w116 2.65)?:bulb:


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