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Old 10-23-2008, 12:01 PM
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:23 PM
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I don't know that I agree with you about the "saltwater coasts". Having lived in the South almost my entire life, cars don't typically rust like they do up North in the great Rust Belt. If the exterior of the car is in good shape, chances are the owner took pretty good care of the car and there probably isn't any rust. I have owned 4 different Mercedes and none of them have had rust, all of which lived thier lives on the coast.

The engine looks like every Mercedes Engine I have owned. I don't see anything alarming in the pictures.
Ditto from Seattle. Puget Sound is a salt water body - big enough for us to be one of the largest west-coast ports - what I'd considered a "coast".

Cars in this area just don't rust out at all. Despite the "salt air" and 200 days of drizzle a year, any rusted out junker you see around here came from somewhere else - namely the midwest/northern rustbelt. Same with California and Oregon. I've been all over my 300 CD (and all 7 of my other vehicles that have lived in the NW their whole lives) and the only hidden rust I've found anywhere is in and around the battery tray - obviously due to acid damage.

Never really understood that "salt air" theory. The salt doesn't evaporate into the air with the water, so how does it get into the air? Now if the vehicle spends a lot of time right ON the coast - like IN the sand at the water's edge - then saltwater spray in the air will eat them alive. Any driving in the salt water will too - obviously - but salt in the air? Nah, not physically possible - salt isn't a liquid that can evaporate and in solid form it is WAY heavier than air.

Unless someone has an explanation regarding airborn salt, I don't buy the "salt air" theory...
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:47 PM
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Salt can travel in air, just like any rock can as dust.

When I say a salt-water coast car, I mean just that. Living in Boca Raton, a couple of hundred feet from the water, the car had salt on it every morning. The rotors were always grinding in the morning, etc.

Three coaches that lived within a few-hundred feet of the FL, RI and LA coast, two of them across the street from the water; same thing. Rust through the radiator supports, ... wind carried salt in, humidity got it wet, rain couldn't wash it out. One had problems in the electrical in the interior also, owner left windows open slightly at all times, the interior had salt and humidity in it.

Our screens and furniture, lasted a season or two. Never left the windows open, just occasionally to "air out" in FL on the coast.

Salt air is well known for its corrosive affect, ask any navy. It doesn't need to go underwater to suffer from the corrosion.

So I've seen it, lived it, hated it, ... it exists. Live a couple of blocks inland and you'll never know there's an ocean there, lucky (or unlucky) you.
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:59 AM
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Having lived on the Oregon coast growing up, we jokingly referred to it as the 'coastal cancer' on the cars. Most of the local rigs had some sort of sheet metal decay due to living that close to the salt water.

That being said, routine washings did a lot to help control it, and living away from the actual coastline helped more.

Now that I'm in the Seattle Tacoma metro area, I just stay away from the waterfront for the most part. Less aggravation with salt water and idiotic drivers cruising, problem solved!
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Here in the Santa Cruz Monterey bay area, I see cars that spend their time next to the ocean with a lot of rust. when the waves are crashing on the rocks especially in a storm, the wind blows the mist quite a ways.

salt also eats up the radiator fins. run your finger up the fins and they will flake off.
MY 82 Datsun with the 400xxx miles has it`s original radiator, the 82 that is my project has 175xxx miles. lived it`s life along the coast, and the radiator is flaky.

after being in the Navy on a Destroyer, I know the effects salt water has on steel and aluminium. but most of our cars will not see the abuse a ship sees at sea.

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Old 10-24-2008, 03:53 PM
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Salt can travel in air, just like any rock can as dust.

When I say a salt-water coast car, I mean just that. Living in Boca Raton, a couple of hundred feet from the water, the car had salt on it every morning. The rotors were always grinding in the morning, etc.

Three coaches that lived within a few-hundred feet of the FL, RI and LA coast, two of them across the street from the water; same thing. Rust through the radiator supports, ... wind carried salt in, humidity got it wet, rain couldn't wash it out. One had problems in the electrical in the interior also, owner left windows open slightly at all times, the interior had salt and humidity in it.

Our screens and furniture, lasted a season or two. Never left the windows open, just occasionally to "air out" in FL on the coast.

Salt air is well known for its corrosive affect, ask any navy. It doesn't need to go underwater to suffer from the corrosion.

So I've seen it, lived it, hated it, ... it exists. Live a couple of blocks inland and you'll never know there's an ocean there, lucky (or unlucky) you.
OK, I can buy that - we have no disagreement about rigs that spend their lives right on the shoreline. And I can even see your point about salt being carried a little ways by wind.

I guess it is a matter of our thinking/meaning different things by the phrase "salt-water coast". I think of that as meaning whole costal states - but you're talking about just the actual coastline. Since that's what you mean, then I have to agree.

However, there is a LOT more of Louisianna that doesn't fit that description than there is that does fit that description. Your bad experience with the motorcoaches from what you define as the coast of Louisianna wouldn't apply to all cars from Louisianna - just the ones that lived at the shore. And if this one lived at the shore - any shore - I'd say RUN. If not (which it seems unlikely given the CarFax report) then being from Louisianna isn't a negative...
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Old 10-24-2008, 05:35 PM
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Agreed. My blue '87 is a LA car. Lived upstate, clean and rust-free.

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