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Leaking Fuel Injector
After investigating what I thought was a leaking valve cover gasket, I have concluded the I have a fuel leak from the base of the #1 fuel injector. (The leak is definitely not from the return lines or from the injector "joint.") As the engine runs, I can see fuel well up slowly from the base of the injector where the injector threads in to the combustion chamber.
I suppose that the next step would be to remove and inspect the injector, then replace the seal and reinstall the injector. But, before I start taking things apart, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this particular problem. I have never removed any of the injectors, making it highly unlikely that they have ever been removed. '82 300D, 152k miles. |
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Try tightening the fuel supply line on that injector...
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I had the same problem and in spite of my confidence in the correct source of the leak, I was wrong. It was the return lines. For very little $ or time, replace those and report back. I'm betting the leak is gone!
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I have already confirmed that the fuel is not running down the injector. The leak is not from the return lines or the supply line.
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I had a similar problem on my 300SD, and I replaced the injector which cured the problem. I ruled out the line and the rubber hoses. Leaks can be tricky to pinpoint sometimes.
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Interesting problem. I just fixed 3 of mine that were leaking from the threaded "joint" where the collar around the nozzle screws onto the body of the injector. If it isn't leaking there, OR at the rerurn lines, OR at the injector line nut, then where the injector screws into the head is pretty much the only place that's left - unless maybe the nozzle collar is cracked.
If that's not it, then part that so hard to understand is that under those threads (inside the prechamber) there shouldn't be any fuel in a liquid state. For fuel in the prechamber to get past those threads the atomized fuel from the injector tip would have to be returning to a liquid state and being pushed out past the threads by the engine's compression. As in condensing around the threads and then being pushed past them by the compressed gas in the cylinder. Is the fuel at the injector/head interface "bubbly" - e.g. mixed with air? What quantity of fuel are we talking about here? Drops? Enough to run down the side of the block and drip onto the ground?
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I would say the rate would be on the order of 1 cc per hour. Not a gusher be any means, but enough to put a spot on the deck every day. |
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I'd say pull that injector and look for cracks in the nozzle holder ring.
But that's just a thought - I'm far from an expert.
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Are you suggesting the problem is a cracked prechamber or suggesting another name for the part you think I'm talking about?
Because what I'm talking about is the threaded collar surrounding the nozzle and securing it to the injector body... Don't see how it could be the prechamber itself - though maybe a cracked or loose securing ring that threads into the head on top of the prechamber might be the problem - since the injector screws into it.
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I don't understand how it can suddenly start leaking tho. Good luck.
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Firt thing to do is to fit a NEW 'heat-shield'/seal washer....
10-1, That will cure the problem
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With all due respect, TF, one of those items has to be the issue. You can't have fuel fight gravity, after it's become fully atomized, and magically appear in the injector threads.
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At this point, a cracked injector seems to be the only plausible cause of the leak. Given that the leak is not catastrophic, further investigation may have to wait. |
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Although it seems unlikely to me, I'd also take a shot at that heat shield..........it's quick and easy to rule it out. |
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