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Old 11-21-2008, 02:26 PM
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#14 head

i think i got the feared #14 head on my new car.

casting number looks to be 603 016 14 01

i guess this means i have the weak #14 head. car has 450,000 miles and i believe i am the second owner (purchased from used car dealer so not sure but carfax check points to a single owner since 1987). car is in exceptional condition so i hope the head and engine were well cared for.

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Old 11-21-2008, 02:40 PM
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As long as you do not let the engine overheat, you should be fine. There are others here on this forum that have #14 heads still on the road.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:53 PM
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Good grief!!! I think if your car has 450,000 miles you can consider the head to have been pretty strong.
Besides, they usually only have issues if the car overheats as Ralph mentioned.
With that kind of mileage the whole thing is on borrowed time so no use fearing the head.
Just keep the cooling system in good shape and work your way towards some really high mileage numbers.
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:00 PM
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yeah, the miles are way high but like i said, the car is in exceptional condition. the best MB i've bought so far. this is my 6th MB diesel and by far the nicest.

and i've been getting 33-35 mpg with it....staying at 65 mph.
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1983 D-50 Power Ram 4x4 "Mitsubishi" 2.3 turbo diesel
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:01 PM
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yeah, the miles are way high but like i said, the car is in exceptional condition. the best MB i've bought so far. this is my 6th MB diesel and by far the nicest.

and i've been getting 33-35 mpg with it....staying at 65 mph.
That MPG is amazing. So, this is on your 1987 wagon?
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:23 PM
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65mph is the key. I've found I can get into the low-mid 30s on back-highways at 60mph, even with the stops and occasional passing. On the freeway at 77mph, I'm pretty happy to average 30mpg.

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Old 11-22-2008, 09:17 PM
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33-35 on my 1987 wagon. i've only gone thru 3 fill ups so far but lookin good if i keep her at 65mph and go easy on the gas pedal.
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1981 VW MKI Caddy 1.6 diesel, waiting on engine swap
1983 D-50 Power Ram 4x4 "Mitsubishi" 2.3 turbo diesel
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RIP: 1984 300TDT, 1982 300TDT, 1984 190D 2.2, 1992 300D 2.5, 1987 300TDT, 1982 Maxima LD28, 1983 Maxima LD28, Isuzu C223 P'ups X3, 1983 Holiday Rambler 6.2 Banks turbo diesel, 1984 Winnebago LeSharo 2.1 TD, 1985 Allegro 6.5
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:57 PM
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couple more fill-ups....still high 34.xxx MPGs....gotta keep it 60-65 MPH....liking this wagon.
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1981 VW MKI Caddy 1.6 diesel, waiting on engine swap
1983 D-50 Power Ram 4x4 "Mitsubishi" 2.3 turbo diesel
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RIP: 1984 300TDT, 1982 300TDT, 1984 190D 2.2, 1992 300D 2.5, 1987 300TDT, 1982 Maxima LD28, 1983 Maxima LD28, Isuzu C223 P'ups X3, 1983 Holiday Rambler 6.2 Banks turbo diesel, 1984 Winnebago LeSharo 2.1 TD, 1985 Allegro 6.5
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:42 PM
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I have 304k on my #14. The other posters are right, just make sure that you do not overheat the engine and you will be fine. FWIW my SDL does not go over 80 degrees even in summer traffic. I THINK I saw it go up to about 95 ONCE. The 300SD used to cruise at 95~100.

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