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Anybody want a 5 speed?
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drooling...
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hen's teeth rare
no US model W123s had them, so they come off of a limited batch of euro models |
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Looks like you'll need quite a bit of other stuff to put that into a w123, if you can find it all. The flywheel for starters.
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I thought the only difference was the 5 speed had an over drive. why would it use a different flywheel?
I understand the shifter and maybe the shift rods being different. Charlie
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The flywheel from a manual-equipped 616 should work just fine.
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If you have any info on how to mod a 4spd to a 5spd shifter please post a link. from what I can see on EPS the part numbers and arms are all completely different
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Thank you for your posts. They reminded me that no matter how much I wanted a 5 speed 240D, I just don't have the time or energy to finish the job. I knew that I could cobble together the parts. (I have a 240 auto driveshaft). But somehow I would probably never get around to installing it in the near future. Oh yeah, it's cast iron heavy alright!
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I seem to remember a big difference in shifters when I did the swap but that could have been the difference in the early (2 piece) and the one piece tranny shifter. I didn't think there was a difference in the shifters. Dont know if this helps but it may be a start.
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Do you know if theres a difference in the "early' (2 piece) tranny shifter and the later, Getrag shifter because that might have been the difference in shifters that I saw, not the fact that it was a special "5 spd shifter" (it was an easily modified, normal 4 speed shifter maybe)
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thanx, I will pull the shifter part lists on EPS. It seemed to me they were significantly different when I looked at it before but I do not have a spare 4 speed shifter to look at. If this pans out I will post the conversion in another thread. As far as the w201 5 speed shifter. The legs are different lengths than the w123 5 speed shifter, but they are long so to convert it looks like a cut and remove 1/2 from one leg and reweld and a cut and flip over and reweld on another leg. Looks like maybe a good hours worth of work. once that is done it is simply a matter of 2 mount holes drilled in the trans tunnel to mount it
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Nearly everyone does this, but the results are not nearly as good as finding the flywheel designed for a 617.
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I wonder if a machine shop could add seven pounds to make a 616 f/w match the weight of a 617 f/w, sounds kinda goofy but who knows?
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