so this morning i went out to start up helga (my 300D)
she turned over with a little hesitation and ended up stalling out. i turned it over to heat up a bit more, went to start her again, she started right up but stalled again. sometimes this happens if i don't give her enough time to heat up so i didn't worry too much about it.
third time, i think instead of turning her over into the glowplug position, i turned it all the way over, but didn't notice b/c it didn't start up or make stalling noises, etc. NOW, she won't turn over at all, all that i hear when i turn it over is a small click. All my lights work, radio, heat, everything, just can't start her up. what's going on??!

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"helga"
1982 300D
white/navy 191k

When that happened to me, I needed a new battery. The accessories don't need as much juice as the starter.

Also, when it's really cold out, I allow two full glow cycles (until the relay clicks), 1 pump on the accelerator and then start. Thats what the Owner's Manual says to do as the "cold start" procedure.

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Yeah, sounds like the battery to me, too.

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Yes, the inability to turn over points to a weak battery. However, the stalling after starting isn't explained by a bad battery. I have experienced that symptom when I've had summer fuel in winter conditions. What temperature is it at your location and are you running winterized fuel?

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nope! i just realized i had her in reverse from the second stall, hence she wouldn't start...
easiest problem i ever had to fix!

thanks again for the input

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"helga"
1982 300D
white/navy 191k

Congratulations.

I guess things like this are why computer tech support people start by asking if your computer is plugged in.

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Chad
2013 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon
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"Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.)

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1985 300TD - Red Dragon
1986 300SDL - Coda
1991 - 300TE
1995 - E320
1985 300CD - Gladys
2006 Nissan Pathfinder LE
1998 Acura 3.0 CL

haha...my mom always told me they wouldn't warn you of something if someone hadn't been stupid enough to do it before!

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"helga"
1982 300D
white/navy 191k

I noticed you didn't mention the block heater. Don't you have one? Or don't you use it?

I started using mine this weekend and was amazed at the results.

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So now we are wondering how you got her to even ' start up and stall' if it was in reverse....
Instead of multiple glows... just leave the gp circuit engaged for a TIMED 60 seconds... that is what the FSM suggests...

How is this done? My relay clicks off after 30 seconds.

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"Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.)

SOLD
1985 300TD - Red Dragon
1986 300SDL - Coda
1991 - 300TE
1995 - E320
1985 300CD - Gladys
2006 Nissan Pathfinder LE
1998 Acura 3.0 CL

does that click coincide with the light. That is determined by a temp sensor near the head or in then t-stat housing.

The actaull GP relay does continue for much longer than the light / click would have you belive. It is something like one full minute as mentioned.

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My light goes out after about 10 seconds and the relay clicks at about 30 seconds.

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"Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.)

SOLD
1985 300TD - Red Dragon
1986 300SDL - Coda
1991 - 300TE
1995 - E320
1985 300CD - Gladys
2006 Nissan Pathfinder LE
1998 Acura 3.0 CL

What happens if you don't allow the GP to heat up? Does it hurt something? Mine will start even when I turn the switch immediately over to start, forgetting that I'm in the deisel rather than one of the other cars. So far, it starts just fine.

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2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

well, it was in park before it stalled, when it stalled, i was reversing...and forgot to put it back in park.

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"helga"
1982 300D
white/navy 191k

I have had Max not start several times after the glow plug warm up. The key will just turn slightly, but nothing happens. Usually, if I just switch it back to "off' and go through the sequence again, it starts right up. This may be a worn starter switch I'm guessing.

Of course, I have also freaked out because the car wouldn't start only to discover it wasn't in park first. Doh! It's nice to know I'm not the only one . . . .

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Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles