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OM615 chain stretch
I'm taking the head off my 73 220D, and as I was lining up the camshaft timing I naturally had a look to see what the chain stretch was - well it was 20+ degrees. I didn't even think that was possible with a diesel. Obviously something is wrong and assuming that the timing is correct is it easier to replace the chain after I have the rest of the engine back together, or while I have it apart? I am digging through my manual for OM615 chain replacement but haven't found it yet.
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It is more than likely easier with the head on - less opportunity for slack in the wrong place in my opinion, but others may not agree. If the front of the engine came off all the way, like it does on the W201 190E, it is a different story. Jim
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So is it safe to run at all with that amount of stretch? I'd like to see if it even works before I start putting new parts on it.
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What do you mean by safe? Eventually the chain will fail. I believe that amount of stretch is beyond the range of the available offsets for Woodruff keys from MB, therefore I would assume it is beyond the allowable stretch. I have no idea if that means it is unsafe. Jim
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I would think if your chain really has that much stretch you are very close to having valve, piston collision, :eek: which could be "terminal" to your engine.
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I suppose I had better play it safe, when I was trying to set TDC (with the injectors removed), there was a lot more resistance at certain points than I thought proper for an engine with no compression (and assuming there is no bore damage from overheating). However I'll finish getting the head off today and see what the damage is. I expect to find the head is cracked anyway (there were some other signs of chronic overheating: no thermostat installed, cooling system full of crud, water bottles in trunk). |
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I just bought a Wagon with the same problems as your 220D, but the owner thought it would be OK to take it out for a short haul to see if it ran ok and the timing chain broke, busted the crank in 3 pieces, snapped the sprocket off the camshaft and the whole mess dropped into the oil pan, but not before it was tossed into the oil pump drive chain and ripped it off the front of the oil pump breaking the shaft and stripping the pump sprocket!!!!:eek::eek: I bought the car, a really nice rust free model 300TDT loaded with all options including a sunroof and a real nice interior for $500! Now I've got the engine out and apart and already spent $1200 on a new oil pump and other related parts, including a new timing chain!;) Thank god my camshaft is a lot easier to find than yours will be!:D Take your time and do it right! Nothing is more expensive than a cheap Mercedes! And it will continue to be a cheap Mercedes if you start taking shortcuts! |
I agree...this is indeed a cheap Mercedes, and I'm trying to be as cheap as possible repairing it but that's a dangerous shortcut I don't want to take. So new timing chain it is...
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