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Old 01-04-2009, 10:54 PM
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They must not be too concerned about it....I see plenty of blue-spewing vehicles out on the roads....

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Old 01-04-2009, 11:25 PM
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...try a jeep Cherokee, the Cherokee engine weight is about the same as a OM617 and the body is SUPER LIGHT and it will go fast!!
Ditto. A 86-96 Jeep Cherokee would be the PERFECT vehicle for this. They are plentiful, so they can be purchased cheaply - especially with a dead engine or tranny. They can be had in 4 door or 2 door configurations, but both have the same frame, suspension, and wheelbase. The standard engine is a 4 liter inline 6 and a LOT of them came with the AW4 automatic tranny - which is very comparable in size to the MB 4 speed automatic.

All this adds up to an engine bay and frame that are perfectly sized for the 5 cylinder OM617 and MB 4 speed auto. Curb weight is about 3450 - also very comparable to the 300 series diesels. The 4 liter inline 6 gasser engine is a bit lighter than the OM617 - probably a couple of hundred pounds - BUT that can easily be compensated for by swapping in a set of junkyard front springs from a V8 93-98 Grand Cherokee. This is a common swap to lift the front end of a "regular" Cherokee an inch or so - and they fit perfectly with no modifications required.

There is also a WIDE range of rear axle ratios available in the "regular" Cherokees - the stock ratios offered were 3.07 (I6 & 5 speed manual tranny), 3.55 (I6 & AW4 automatic), and 3.73 (I4 & 5 speed manual tranny) and 4.10 (I4 & AW4 automatic tranny). However, you can also get gearsets for the stock axle in 4.56, 4.88, and even 5.13

Stock tire diameter is around 28" but you can increase that up to as much as 30" without having to lift it or enlarge the wheelwells, and you can run tires as big as 32" diameter by doing some simple trimming of the wheelwell openings. So between the available axle ratios and tire options you can adjust the gearing to just about anything to want to match the powerband of the OM617 & 4 speed auto.

Personally I think the 3.07 ratio with stock tires (225/75/15) or maybe slightly upsized tires (245/75/15) tires would work out just about perfect for the OM617/auto combo.
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Old 01-04-2009, 11:28 PM
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If my 300SD gets total in a way where the engine and the trans is no damaged, i might considerer swapping into a Cherokee..
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:53 AM
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I considered doing this in my discovery. Problem was that I'd be dropping 50hp from the stock engine, the stock engine is much shorter, the stock engine (aluminum-block V-8) is much lighter. The original truck is a perfect 50/50 weight distribution also, hated to mess that up.

Biggest problem is adaptors, which will cost more than the engine you're installing, to adapt to other transmissions.

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If you want to put it in a land rover go with the OM603 you will be flying in a om603,i don't think you will like the performance of a Om617 with 123 hp 177 torq in a 5 1/2k lbs body , for a OM617, you can try a jeep Cherokee, the Cherokee engine weight is about the same as a OM617 and the body is SUPER LIGHT and it will go fast!!
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:58 AM
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but how to maintain 4x4 capability with the mercedes tranny?

I know some datsun\nissans had divorced T case's. but not sure if you could squeeze one under a cherokee. maybe a 4 door.

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