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300 turbo diesel with a four speed manual?
I have a 300SD with a good engine and a bad tranny. I found a car that is in pretty good condition that is a W123 fours speed manual that possibly has a bad engine for cheap. Is it possible to mate a 300 turbo diesel to a 4 speed tranny and will the bigger engine fit in the engine compartment? thanks, stephen
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68 250s SOLD 78 300d non turbo SOLD 1980 240d manual SOLD 1981 300SD 360,000 miles I think she's doomed for a parts car but has a good engine SOLD the engine to spamman 1977 300d non turbo SOLD 1985 300SD california car 1978 240D Manual |
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It has been done, but will require modifications. search on the forum for 4 speed swaps, and you will find a lot of answers.
I think there was a recent thread where someone was swapping a 4speed into a 300SD.
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Grey '91 350SDL 214k Dad's car Beige '81 240D 4 Speed 254k SOLD Blue '82 300D 225k SOLD White '95 E300D 46k SOLD Blue '87 190D 2.5 Turbo 315k SOLD Brown '80 240D 4 Speed 716k SOLD Beige '80 300D N/A 119k SOLD Blue '85 300D Model 186k T-Boned |
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This cat has a very rare 300SD with a stick.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=169206
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300 turbo in W123
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-Stephen
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68 250s SOLD 78 300d non turbo SOLD 1980 240d manual SOLD 1981 300SD 360,000 miles I think she's doomed for a parts car but has a good engine SOLD the engine to spamman 1977 300d non turbo SOLD 1985 300SD california car 1978 240D Manual |
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Is the w123 a 240D or a 300D? If it is a 300D, the OM617 is interchangeable between them except for a few parts like engine mount arms.
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RRGrassi 70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car 13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete. 91 W124 300D Turbo replaced, Pressure W/G actuator installed. 210K 90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K Last edited by rrgrassi; 01-09-2009 at 01:47 PM. |
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It is a 1977 W123 240D...what does OF mean?
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68 250s SOLD 78 300d non turbo SOLD 1980 240d manual SOLD 1981 300SD 360,000 miles I think she's doomed for a parts car but has a good engine SOLD the engine to spamman 1977 300d non turbo SOLD 1985 300SD california car 1978 240D Manual |
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It means his left index finger slipped and hit the "F" key when he meant to hit the "R" key.
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1984 300 Coupe TurboDiesel Silver blue paint over navy blue interior 2nd owner & 2nd engine in an otherwise 99% original unmolested car ~210k miles on the clock 1986 Ford F250 4x4 Supercab Charcoal & blue two tone paint over burgundy interior Banks turbo, DRW, ZF-5 & SMF conversion 152k on the clock - actual mileage unknown |
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I meant to say If...sorry two finger typing skills I possess. It has been edited.
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RRGrassi 70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car 13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete. 91 W124 300D Turbo replaced, Pressure W/G actuator installed. 210K 90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K |
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Forced Induction and bkkast has put a turboed OM 617 into a 240 shell.
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RRGrassi 70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car 13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete. 91 W124 300D Turbo replaced, Pressure W/G actuator installed. 210K 90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K |
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I know that anything is possible....but at what cost and effort? Is Forced Induction still on this forum? I thought he was banned...i sure hope not.
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68 250s SOLD 78 300d non turbo SOLD 1980 240d manual SOLD 1981 300SD 360,000 miles I think she's doomed for a parts car but has a good engine SOLD the engine to spamman 1977 300d non turbo SOLD 1985 300SD california car 1978 240D Manual |
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Forced is still around. If you have a 300D parts car, you can to the swap easily to get the few 300D specific parts, like engine mount arms, oil pressure sender, inst cluster, etc.
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RRGrassi 70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car 13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete. 91 W124 300D Turbo replaced, Pressure W/G actuator installed. 210K 90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K |
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If i am just replacing the engine in a W123 240d 4 speed manual with a 300sd motor...I dont need a new instrument cluster. and the pressure sender is in place of the hose that goes to the mechanical guage on the cluster. I understand that I would need new arms..but those i can get easily from the pick n pull. I dont need a new drive shaft if the original one from the 240d is ok, unless the engine is so much longer that the D.S. bottoms out and has no play. my main concern is will the bell housing's bolt match the trans of a 240d? and will the drive shaft need to be replaced or not.
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68 250s SOLD 78 300d non turbo SOLD 1980 240d manual SOLD 1981 300SD 360,000 miles I think she's doomed for a parts car but has a good engine SOLD the engine to spamman 1977 300d non turbo SOLD 1985 300SD california car 1978 240D Manual |
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The drive shaft and shifter linkages from both cars are not the right length. You have to shorten the 240d driveshaft.
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He was just grounded for a while.
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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I think what stephen is saying is that he wants to plop a 617 into a manual 123 240d, without moving the manual transmission, linkage, or driveshaft.
I do not know if that would work tho. wouldn't the 617 mounts not line up with the cars mounts? Someone educate me.
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