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Old 01-15-2009, 12:01 PM
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The EGR valve is vacuum switched and there is a gasket to seal it to the intake. It's unlikely that a leaking gasket would admit enough air to unbalance the system sufficiently to throw codes and disrupt proper operation of the car. If the EGR valve is not working properly it will cause the computer that runs the system to set a code.

You can remove the EGR valve and test it by applying a vacuum with a Mityvac or similar vacuum pump. You should be able to see the valve move in and out when you apply/remove vacuum. The electrical connection on the EGR valve tells the computer that the EGR valve is still there and working. You can test the electrical connections with your meter by looking for continuity between the pins and then pushing the valve open by hand (it's spring loaded). All you need to see is that the meter changes when the valve is opened and closed - this shows that the switch inside the EGR valve is switching. I don't know which pins, you will have to experiment. I think there are three wires on my 606 EGR but it is an NA engine and I am leery of assuming it is the same as yours.

If the EGR valve does not work with vacuum (broken vacuum diaphragm inside or crudded up with exhaust/oil) or if the electrical switch does not work, the computer will not be happy.

Hint: It's been my experience that the code set by the computer does not always point to the right part of the system.

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Old 01-15-2009, 12:19 PM
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Just a slight correction, there are no electrical connections on the EGR of the 606.962. The ECU verifies correct operation by measuring air flow characteristics through the MAF rather than via an electrical contact.
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When I took my intake manifold off the first time (I don't recall the mileage but it was around 75k miles) to venture into a glow plug replacement using Lightman's procedure, I found a seriously clogged intake manifold with a very dirty underside - big black stain that looked like a spray pattern. So, I took the EGR valve off and found the gasket was folded over at one corner so that about a third of the gasket between three bolt holes was on the inside, in the air flow path. The point is, air didn't leak in there, it shot out and carried the goo on the inside with it. I do not believe the area spends much time under vacuum, so the stuff is leaking out not in.

Don't underestimate the ability of a clogged intake manifold to make the sensors send the computer bad readings. While that did not happen with mine, the performance improved drastically after I cleaned the manifold out. Others have noted they did this with solvents and so on - mine was seriously clogged and I ended up using a high pressure spray wand at a do it yourself car wash bay after soaking it for 24 hours in a sequence of Diesel fuel and commercial sovents/degreasers which softened the stuff but would not remove it. The high pressure spray wand made short work of the stuff and a huge mess in the bay that I had to clean up with another $2.50 of quarters.....

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Old 01-15-2009, 12:37 PM
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Now that I think about it. When I remounted the IM last time I had difficulty getting it seated in the intake pipe. Could a poor connection there cause this?

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