Any car can kill you in a serious accident. Drive into the back of a semi trailer at 60mph and try to walk away....

Or, get t-boned driveside by a early 90's picked at 45mph and jump out the sunroof unharmed..



Thats the day I decided I will never own any other car than an mb. But, yeah, hitting a parked semi at freeway speeds isnt going to feel good. But in a honda, youd get your legs chopped off. In a mercedes youd only have the g-force injuries.

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Uh, no. Hitting the back of a semi trailer at HW speeds in any car will pretty much result in your upper half ending up in the trunk.

Love to see any pictures you have as proof of what your saying.

Lots and lots of benz motors have run many years on veggie.
There are example of people running it for hundreds of thousands of miles.

It has been my experience that it has more to do with how the car is maintained than the use of veggie or diesel.

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Can you supply us with any real evidence of what your saying.

I run veggie in my benz and I would like to avoid any of the problems your talking about.

If you have some real evidence I would like to hear or see it.

Pictures, or actual parts would be nice.

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Please Rich, don't bait this thread down to your level like you have done before.

We have done this many times before. LOTS of people provided LOTS of proof, but you absolutely REFUSE to believe ANY of it. If you want to to have another one-way argument where I provide proof and you cover your eyes and ignore me, SEARCH the forum and you will find several threads.

Your ONLY reason for that post is to cause trouble and I shall not waste my time with you again.

Get her a late 90's Buick, those are cheap to buy, get good gas mileage, and GM parts are cheaper than dirt. Plus they have some mass to them.

A girl I know just totaled her's coming home from school in a wicked snow storm. Hit by another car, spun 5 times on the highway, smacked divider, hit by yet another car and ended up off to the side. She wasn't hurt.

Unless you want a project I wouldn't get her an old Mercedes. If you have to get her a Mercedes spend a few bucks and put her in a W210 E320, or W202 C class. Something gas, and new enough to be fairly reliable.


I treated my first car very well, as well as all my cars, because I paid for them.

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veg oil is fine, if administered PROPERLY.

but i dont think its a wise choice for a 1st driver, or anyone not willing or able to do minor mtc on the side of the road.

in this case, even if its never run on wvo again, the wvo "system" has already been hacked in (or so it sounds). Its bad enough figuring out what POs screwed up and rigged in on factory fuel. Id hate to take on a mystery project like this even for me.

I still think a properly maintained diesel 123 or 126 would be a good cheap choice. But theres no comparision to a later model buick driven by a granny. It would just suck seeing that ugly rig parked in my driveway...

oh yeah, and as for durability in a crash, its hard to beat an old MB. they made em from melted down tiger tanks I just got ass ended by a town car at 15 mph on my way to the mall xmas shopping. jumped out in traffic and took a quick look, his bumper mangled, mine was a OK. gave him a wave and jumped back in and took off. would of been towed off if I had been in a honda...

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I am not baiting anyone, I am really asking.
I run veggie oil, I am interested in any real problems anyone has had.
Really !!

And no, you have never ever, even once when asked repeatedly for days gave one little shread of evidence that veggie harms these engines.
Shall I link to the other threads.

You act like you know it all about veggie, but you have no experience.
Except for two tanks of veggie and what your brother has told you.

You are the one dragging threads down with constant ridicule of anyone interested in running veggie.

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Oh yeah, forgot that the truck is raised! But tell me, would you rather be in a chevy malibu or a w126?

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Yeah, uh huh, sure, okay....

RichC -EVERY study ever done using unheated Veggie oil in a Diesel engine has resulted in catastrophic engine failure. You can google studies ranging from John Deere, ASAE (American Society of Automotive Engineers), University of Alberta, etc. I have attached one such study that summarizes many other studies. In fact many of the tests using veggie oil needed to be stopped due to premature engine failure.

WVO can be run in a properly heated two tank system-IF (BIG IF) the engine is up to temp & the WVO is up to temp (80C/160F+) before switching to WVO. Anything else is killing the mighty Bemz. While the mighty Benz may seem to be running adquately on unheated WVO-a oil sample test, pressure test of the injectors, blowby test, & compression test will show the damage. Do these tests on your Benz if burning WVO-otherwise you are running on bald tires while happy untill you have a flat.

That said -my 16 year old son drives a 1985 MB converted to run WVO. I cannot think of a better car for a young driver then a big, heavy, slow (relative to rice rockets), cold rolled german panzar tank.

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No, I am serious.
I may have asked a little strangly.
But that is to try and get past all of the here say.

You claim to want these classic cars to survive.
Well if someone choses to use veggie, dont you want them to know how to use it ?

At least now you tell people to heat the oil first.
But that is not really the problem with these cars and veggie.
Its viscosity and cetane values.
And bad filtering, causes most of the problems.
And people putting some sort of crazy "system" on their vehicles, that eventually breaks, and causes problems.

I have seen lots of problems caused by some sort of fuel heating setup.
Enough to convince me that blending is a much better idea.
And I dont have to modify the vehicle, or butcher it, as you call it.

I like these cars also.
I wanna help keep them on the roads too.

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What about mixing??????????

I ran my 83(and only that one) on mixed WVO and RUG for over 20K......
very happily. car was sold and driven to Nebraska from Fl. on WVO
and still going strong. This on a car that already had 300k++++

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84 Mercedes 300D 148k........SOLD
85 Mercedes 300TD 386k and holding some one elses project

If I were running veggie in a John Deere, which I do. I would listen to the John Deere research, which I have.

But these are not John Deere engines.

There is not a single study on the internet, or anywhere else that has shown any harm done to one of the mercedes engines using veggie.
In fact there are lots of people with many many miles on there cars using veggie.

I have seen more and more problems caused by people installing some sort of fuel heating system like you have suggested.

Heating the oil is not really the issue.
High viscosity fuel is.

I have found that using solvents like diesel, napathaline, acitone and gasoline works very very well.

I have run vehicles for thousands of miles for several years now on veggie blends with no problems.

Can you please relate to us your eperience, so we can learn ??

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