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Old 10-04-2001, 11:07 PM
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vacuum in fuel tank--clogged vent???

I'm new to this forum. (It was recommended to me today by a friend.) I have a 1982 300 TDT. Some time ago when I stopped to get fuel I noticed that the fuel cap was hard to remove. It was REALLY stuck in place by a strong vacuum. Now I let air into the tank whenever I get home.

The cap does not appear to have a vent hole in it. How is the tank supposed to be vented? Around the time that this started happening I also noticed that the fuel gauge stopped working. (It shows a full tank all the time.) Could this be related to a clogged vent???

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Peter Christensen

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Old 10-05-2001, 10:53 PM
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On my old 220D the tank was vented to a hole in the right rear fender and the little hose got kind of gummy after a while and plugged. When I sold the car to my father in law he started having real problems and the car would stop running. Being an old geezer with lots of experience with old cars before the days of emissions controls (actually he is 85 now, and I think he has driven several hundred cars in his time) he suspected fuel starvation, check the cap for the vent hole and found none. He also noticed the fuel guage stopped working but I do not remember how it failed (either the reserve light came on or the thing showed full, regardless of how much was in the tank). Anyway, he asked me about it and I looked in my manual, and sure enough there is a little tank in the rear right corner of the trunk and it has two lines coming from the tank and one that goes to the right rear corner of the car behind the bumper. He had the line to the fender removed and replaced by a local mechanic and the problem stopped. The same set up existed on my 1975 240D.

My daughter has my 1982 240D at school and if I see her this weekend I will check it out. I do not know if the system was changed for the W123 cars, but I do know the fuel cap comes off pretty easily, and it is brand new (the old one suffered a mechanical failure of the little tangs that engage the filler neck closure lip/thread).

Hope this helps. Jim
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Old 10-05-2001, 11:43 PM
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Thanks for the info. This is a great forum! I'm learning lots about my car by reading past posts. Although mine is almost 20 years old, it only has about 175,000 miles, so I hope to keep it running for a long time. The rust on the doors and tailgate will probably get it before the engine dies.

I guess there's always been a slight vacuum when removing the fuel cap, but I first noticed this problem the day after a long 3 or 4 hour drive. The car was very difficult to start, then when I stopped for fuel the cap was REALLY hard to remove. It was never like this before.

I'm going to look for hoses coming off the top of the tank. I had the tank out of the car years ago, but I can't remember the layout of the hoses. I hope I find one that's clogged!!!

Peter

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