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manual transmission into 300D wagon
Ive heard of three possible routes:
* Getrag 265 from BMW * 240D 4-speed * Apparently ultra-rare 300D 5 -Speed It seems that the 4spd is the easiest and cheapest route to go, but how are the manual gears compare to the auto counterpart? I just dont my highway rpm's higher than they were in my 300d sedan....
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final drive is 1-1 on 4spd manual or auto BMW getrag has yet to be proven and developed, I have not heard if the bell that was planned was cost effective. the 240D 5speed is doable and available if you dont mind paying shipping from europe or waiting for one to come up.
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1982 300CD Turbo (Otis, "ups & downs") parts for sale 2003 TJ with Hemi (to go anywhere, quickly) sold 2001 Excursion Powerstroke (to go dependably) 1970 Mustang 428SCJ (to go fast) 1962 Corvette LS1 (to go in style) 2001 Schwinn Grape Krate 10spd (if all else fails) |
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I just dont have a ton of money to throw around, I was just seeing what parts are most available from the US...
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Java Developer/Linux SysAdmin Current: *1984 300D ~200K,1989 MR2 250K, 2012 Ford Fusion 4.5K (fiance's car to replace the uber-unsafe cavalier) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Past: 1998 Chevy Cavalier ,2005 Saab 9-3 2.0T, 1996 Mazda Protege, 1974 Porsche 914 2.0, 1997 Land Rover Discovery 4.0L/5Speed, 1995 Jeep Wrangler |
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4spd and 2.88 gearing works out pretty well for me.
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240D 4spd is the cheapest way to go. if you have a PNP close the parts will run you around 200-250. then you will need to get the driveshaft shortened at around 75-100. if you need clutch and pressure plate thats another 250-300, if the parts car has a good clutch chances are the PP is ok too. if you can do the install yourself then its about a 2 weekend job the first time, plus the time to get the DS shortened and the flywheels match balanced, which is an additional 25-50.
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1982 300CD Turbo (Otis, "ups & downs") parts for sale 2003 TJ with Hemi (to go anywhere, quickly) sold 2001 Excursion Powerstroke (to go dependably) 1970 Mustang 428SCJ (to go fast) 1962 Corvette LS1 (to go in style) 2001 Schwinn Grape Krate 10spd (if all else fails) |
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shortening ds for 75 to 100 sounds a little short to me. around 200 and up is more what I have seen and or experienced.
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC] ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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good to know, I was going by mine, it was $80 here is Tampa, but shops dont like the MB driveshafts so different areas probably have a big range of prices. they wouldnt balance mine as a set and told me to use hose clamps but mine was fine.
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1982 300CD Turbo (Otis, "ups & downs") parts for sale 2003 TJ with Hemi (to go anywhere, quickly) sold 2001 Excursion Powerstroke (to go dependably) 1970 Mustang 428SCJ (to go fast) 1962 Corvette LS1 (to go in style) 2001 Schwinn Grape Krate 10spd (if all else fails) |
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I have been pricing parts for this job.
Clutch disc, pressure plate, master cylinder, slave cylinder, pilot bearing, release bearing. Fast Lane $539.44 All part express $429.45. add in fly wheel bolts 12 @ $4.95 ea $59.40. Then add in the Drive line work $200.00 pluss. and balance the Fly wheel, I have see prices of $100.00 to do ea one. Prices will vary around the country. Could luck out and get a new PP and Clutch disc at PNP like GAVIN LESLIE did when he did his 79 300CD. also add in the trans, peddles, shifter, shift rods, 240D front drive shaft, 240D automatic trans X mount. and what ever I forgot here to add. So a healthy $1000.00 to do the job. Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works |
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4-speed swaps are common. If you use the junkyard to source most of the hardware it can be done over a long weekend for around a grand.
Finding a cheap 240D parts car would be an even better alternative to picking individual parts. They be bought for around $600, much less if it has body rust. When you're done you can sell leftover parts on eBay and the body shell to the scrappers. |
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5 speeds ARE out there... I got mine in a swap. ya gotta have TONS of time to dedicate to searching ads and posts here on the forum. I found mine here on the forum reading and helping. patience young grasshopper.
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