Okay I know this is a mercedes forum but still thought I could run the idea by other diesel nuts. I can get a complete including ECU and turbo and transmission 2000 6.0L ford diesel for 1,750 and runs. I have a 1961 F100 with a motor that has bad main bearings and bad lifters (thta I know of). So my idea is to install the 6.0L diesel in it and call it a day. Ideas comments? (other than your stupid) ohh and yes I know extensive mods will be needed.

the 6.0 ws not in production till mid 2003 model year Could it be a 7.3? You may run into supension issues with the weight of that motor. Might be better off with a 90's and up electronic injection gas swap or diesel benz motor and tranz would be good on weight and close to same power of the old in line sixs they came stock with.

those diesels are genrally in no less than a 3/4 chassis. man they are heavy and big. I dont know if a F100 chassis could take the weight or the torque

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This is the biggest issue. 6.0 or 7.3, they're both big pigs. Probably 1000+ lbs. Of course, anything is possible but you'll have to do EXTENSIVE frame and suspension mods for it to be long lasting and reliable.

Best choices for this truck would be a Mercedes 617, 603, 606 or at the bigger end of things a Cummins 4bta or at most a Navistar 6.9 or 7.3 IDI.

I would probably choose a 603 for the best mix of affordability and refinement plus mechanical simplicity.

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Sorry yes and 03 not 2000 7.3. I was thinking if the front end could handle a 460 then a 6.0L would be possible. I hadn't really thought of a 603 or 606 but those are stellar ideas. But the big question where can I get one at? Junkyards around here I have never seen any.

The cummins 5.9 is about 1200 #. I would be surprised if the ford v8 is more than 7 or 800, are you sure of the weight of that ford 6.0?

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I was in an accident in my 1985 300D. The engine ran great and the transmission shifted smooth until the wreck. It has frame damage and is not fixable according to the insurance adjuster. So I was able to buy it back and I bought a 1978 300D non turbo. I would consider selling it but, I would just slip a 5.0 L,302 c.i.d., C-4 transmission, and a ford 9 inch. I do have that combo in a 1969 Grand Torino and I would sell it to you for $600. I don't know how much I would even need to have out of my 300D but it would probably be at least double the Torino.

I have the April issue of Diesel Power magazine in front of me, and on page 42, they have a '61 F100 with a 5.9 Cummins. It's just a pic and a short blurb in the "Reader's Diesels" section, but it does mention that the truck now has air ride suspension. So in answer to the original question, yes it can be done. It will probably be a lot of work, but it will be a cool conversion if you do it well.

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I have heard nothing but bad things about the 6.0. Apparently they have weaknesses in the top end. Two mechanics have told me stories recently of having already rebuilt the top ends on them. A mechanical diesel would be easier anyway. I'd try a 6bt cummins.

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Uh, even if you put heavy leaf springs in your 61 F100 pickup, the heavy front end with a 6.0 is going to cause major instability in hard braking in rain or snow. My brother was just bragging about electronic stability control on his diesel 2007 ford p/u. If the vehicle is properly balanced, not nose heavy, you don't need electronic control to stop a long bed pickup straight. I'm putting a 80 mercedes 300 sd 617 motor and tranny in my 74 f150 supercab longbed, twin I beam front end, no chance of upping front springs much. I'm using the mercedes auto trans, 3.7 low and 4 speeds, direct high, and I'm putting in a 4.1:1 or 4.5:1 9" rear axle gear with L78-15 tires. See the gm truck thread on this forum for back of trans adapter to spicer u-joint. Cummins 5.9L and 3.9L are also much heavier than gas v8's, read 4btswaps.com about pickup swaps. (The hostess twinky trucks use a 4bt, the dodge diesel is a 6bt). That site has a special thread for mercedes, perkins, detroit diesel swaps, you may find more info there. If you want to go on with your 6.0 L engine, the guy in Blocher IN has a ford 61ish F250, not wrecked, I think I saw it was not buried too far back. Better frame and front axle for your donation.

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the ford 7.3 powerstroke weighs around 950 lbs and the newer 6.0L weighs around 1050 lbs. i would personaly go with a 7.3 turbo, newer or older, the older will be alot easier as theres minimal wiring and plumbing.

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Diesel all the way!!!

I would try to find a 6.9 IDI, as they can be found pretty cheap, and a Diesel C6 tranny. I dont think that an stock F100 frame can handle that much torque. I know a 460 has alot of torque, but not 5-600 lb/ft of it. As far as the weight issue, If me, and other members can reccomend an IDI diesel, but not a 6.0 PSD, due to weight, we have to realize, even a 6.9 IDI is heavy as hell. The only way I am seeing a 6.9, or 6.0, is with frame modification/strengthening, and stiffer front springs. I used to own an 88 F250, and even though it was a 3/4 ton, part of the diesel package, regardless if you wanted it or not, was a 1 ton rear axle, and 1 ton frame. So in essence it was a 3/4 ton, with 1 ton components. It came stock like this, to cope with a 7.3 IDI, imagine a 6.0???

Well, if they are that heavy, no way would I put them in an ancient f 100. I'd go for the benz motor, it will be matched to the original truck and not be nose heavy...well not as bad anyway!

a 617 turbo.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

HMMMM....I hate to waste a 617 on a F100 cause my 83 300CD needs a refresh. Might see whats involved in a 4bt swap. or Just buy a 460 and call it a day. Ohhh well just an idea and glad I bounced it off you guys for I bought that 6.0L

Just another thing to consider. If the 6.0 comes from an Expedition, it will have a chip in the key that will somehow have to be integrated into the wiring harness. Overall, the electronics would be a nightmare. Until someone comes up with an affordable, universal Diesel engine control computer for Powerstrokes, Duramax, CDI, whatever, swaps like this will be a pain.

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Benz Fleet:
1968 UNIMOG 404.114
1998 E300
2008 E63


Non-Benz Fleet:
1992 Aerostar
1993 MR2
2000 F250