Illegal diesel fuel in home!!! Read this link!!!! - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

jbach36 · #1 03-31-2009, 11:29 PM

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/clayton/stories/2009/03/31/diesel_wrecker_service.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

pawoSD · #2 03-31-2009, 11:41 PM

Diesel isn't explosive.....they are morons. You could drop a lit match into diesel and it'd just go out. Its perfectly safe to store diesel.

vstech · #3 03-31-2009, 11:41 PM

um... how many fuel oil tanks are "enough to blow up 14 houses..."
uh, a cigarette? um, no...
same fuel as diesel...

#4 03-31-2009, 11:42 PM

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enough to blow up 14 houses if ignited

If that 500 gallons were atomized first, otherwise it would just burn for a long time.

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“If there was a leak and one dropped that cigarette, it would have been a travesty,” Porter said. “At a minimum, he would have took out 14 houses.”

Wow, Mr Porter is really ignorant when it comes to basic physics. I can take a bucket of diesel and extinguish my cigarettes in it all day without worry. It would take a blowtorch to ignite liquid diesel.

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“We all could have been blown to bits,” said former school board chairwoman Ericka Davis

Wow, she is actually educating children in that state?!

Well, they are in Atlanta....

vstech · #5 03-31-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

If that 500 gallons were atomized first, otherwise it would just burn for a long time.

Wow, Mr Porter is really ignorant when it comes to basic physics. I can take a bucket of diesel and extinguish my cigarettes in it all day without worry. It would take a blowtorch to ignite liquid diesel.

Wow, she is actually educating children in that state?!

Well, they are in Atlanta....

heh, actually, all it takes to "blow up 14 houses" is to mix it like the idiots did in the Oklahoma City bomings... of course, they used ignitors... and they mixed the diesel with some, um, additional items...

81300sd · #6 03-31-2009, 11:54 PM

Hmm, lets see I got nearly 300 gallons in my shop. Oh wait, thats furnace oil. Wait a minute, same thing. I guess I better get rid or it before I blow up the whole block. Retards

#7 03-31-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech

and they mixed the diesel with some, um, additional items...

Yeah, gotta love the power of commonly available diesel and fertilizer.

barry123400 · #8 03-31-2009, 11:59 PM

Geeze, I tank a maximum of 200 gallons of furnace fuel in my basement for the oil furnace. I guess that would destroy seven of my neighbours houses. Guess my heating system will have to go?

Why not a moderate fine with a stern warning backed up by a heavy future fine for a repeat of the offence. This much apparent official over reaction drives people on to welfare. Also with so many fines usually the guy cannot pay all of them so pays none. Where is the logic?

Has it got to the point of every incident having to be an object lesson to discourage others? This type of behaviour would not be tollerated by our local people. If things were handeled in this fashion in my area I would move away.

We deal with problems in a much gentler fashion. They still get accomplished with less overall damage done.

Actros617 · #9 04-01-2009, 12:27 AM

I have put out a fire using a bucket of diesel. (emergency situation and had no water around). And they are telling me us that it could explode 14 house with cigarettes...

Is it true that you cant ignite gasoline with a cigarette because its not hot enough...

vstech · #10 04-01-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Actros617

Is it true that you cant ignite gasoline with a cigarette because its not hot enough...

YUP, true. it's very difficult to ignite liquid gasoline... movies and tv are SOOO much fun to watch.
although, a cigarette, is capable of being hot enough, it just requires airflow through the cigarette, so you have to be actually smoking the thing to ignite the fuel... don't try THAT at home...

barry123400 · #11 04-01-2009, 12:34 AM

I think it's the concentration of the gasoline vapours that present the more intense ignition problem. These are generated by simple evaporation as well I imagine. If contained and near saturation probably takes very little to ignite them.

compu_85 · #12 04-01-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

You could drop a lit match into diesel and it'd just go out. Its perfectly safe to store diesel.

Why yes, you can.

-Jason

wgilmore · #13 04-01-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by barry123400

Geeze, I tank a maximum of 200 gallons of furnace fuel in my basement for the oil furnace. I guess that would destroy seven of my neighbours houses. Guess my heating system will have to go?

Why not a moderate fine with a stern warning backed up by a heavy future fine for a repeat of the offence. This much apparent official over reaction drives people on to welfare. Also with so many fines usually the guy cannot pay all of them so pays none. Where is the logic?

Has it got to the point of every incident having to be an object lesson to discourage others? This type of behaviour would not be tollerated by our local people. If things were handeled in this fashion in my area I would move away.

We deal with problems in a much gentler fashion. They still get accomplished with less overall damage done.

Diesel vapor is not so hard to ignite from a reservoir of liquid, but to keep it burning is the problem. The flame from the pitifully small diesel vapor could be blown out by the last breath of a dying tick mouse.
This is another case of an government official being not very well informed about common things.
This poor person should take-em all down to the county court house for a nice civil litigation , but he probably can't afford to participate in our civil justice system. He will probably be ruined once they are through meating out the exemplary punishments for this egregious crime.
Yes, that is the failure of the American justice system, but that's what Americans want - vengeance - isn't it ??. You should see some of the cases in Texas - talk about abuse and wild west justice - where people literally get away with murder and others get 20-life for something so much less significant that it merits probation - despicable!!

barry123400 · #14 04-01-2009, 01:14 AM

Since at best you cannot even recover any more than thirty percent of costs in a civil action in Canada. The legal system is not a valid approach for the average guy.

This was done by intent to discourage too many actions. Or as told us to discourage the American type practice of law coming here originally.

Now it is very hard to deal with problems through the court system. It will financially humble the average guy even if you win. Basically if you win in most cases you have lost financially at the end. Forget about the stress involved.

Equal justice remains only a concept almost everywhere.

I have always loved the swearing in to tell the truth aspect. Then watching the most imaginative liar win the action. What a system.

If he common concept of lawyers is already not bad enough. It seems to be progressivly getting so bad now there are no jokes currently that reflect it adaquatly.

At one time I remember speculation about the prevelance of the occasional honest lawyer. Never hear that anymore at all. Bloodsuckers is an inadaquate term for them locally. Sad state of affairs in general.

wgilmore · #15 04-01-2009, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by barry123400

Since at best you cannot even recover any more than thirty percent of costs in a civil action in Canada. The legal system is not a valid approach for the average guy.

This was done by intent to discourage too many actions. Or as told us to discourage the American type practice of law coming here originally.

Now it is very hard to deal with problems through the court system. It will financially humble the average guy even if you win. Basically if you win in most cases you have lost financially at the end. Forget about the stress involved.

Equal justice remains only a concept almost everywhere.

I have always loved the swearing in to tell the truth aspect. Then watching the most imaginative liar win the action. What a system.

If he common concept of lawyers is already not bad enough. It seems to be progressivly getting so bad now there are no jokes currently that reflect it adaquatly.

At one time I remember speculation about the prevelance of the occasional honest lawyer. Never hear that anymore at all. Bloodsuckers is an inadaquate term for them locally. Sad state of affairs in general.

One more comment before Brian cuts this off topic thread -
Yes justice is illusive and transitory at times, but equality is purchased many times in American civil litigation. It is as many regressive taxes, least regressive to those who are impaired least. Such is the same for the cost of justice as it is an economically regressive commodity.