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1986 300D?
I have a question, might be a dumb question but here it goes. I saw a 1986 300D in craigslist, my question is what kind of diesel motor is in a 1986 300D? Not a 617, or a 603, or a 602. What is it, I dont see too many 86 300Ds. Is there a reason for this?
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Junk.........Ok now that that is out in the open, 86 was
the first year for the 6 cyl diesel with a ...how shall I say, NON cast iron head, Is it happened to over heat, it cracked the head. later this was addressed, but not until like 87 or 88. I just steer clear of anything newer than 85.
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It was the first year for the om60x series engines so it will have some quirks, the '87 model year seems to be doing just fine. Its not like its a ticking time bomb, as long as it was taken care of there should not be that much of a worry.
Jack, you need some W126 GEN II/ W124 in your life... I can't believe I drove a W123. How, pedestrian! (jk bud_ |
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It's probably a euro model, and being a 300D it would have the 603, probably a non turbo version.
-J
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I'd hold out for something with a turbo. IIRC most went to South Africa or Eastern Europe. An '86 w123 over here would be incredibly rare, even more rare than a 5 speed wagon. |
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Just looked at the ad again, it is a turbo.
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I've driven an NA one (a 1986 model actually!), they aren't terrible. It gets out of its own way well enough.
-Jason
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Bull****.
The 60x aluminum head engines might not tolerate abuse/neglect like a 616, but maintained even close to properly they often last 400k miles plus. Mine have all been great. I guess that you have to change coolant every three years, sure beats setting valve clearance. Quote:
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Nothing like an om603 in proper tune. Sitting in traffic at idle the tick of the clock can be easily heard and a conversation can be undisturbed while under full load. |
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Boy, it sure didn't take much to convert you. Now if you ever set foot in a 124 with the OM603, the SDL will be a distant memory. (can opened)
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There is nothing wrong with 603 engines, except the 3.5L. The 300D is either a euro or actually an 87, the W124 300D was only sold in the usa in 87.
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As others have already said, the W124/OM603 Turbo was sold in the USA as a 1987 model only. It was sold in Europe as a 1986; it's also possible that a few came over here as Euro-delivery cars. Many (including mine) were made in 1986, as shown on the VIN plate. The seller could have seen that and been mistaken. So there are a number of ways that a 1986 model could be over here. It will have a few small differences but will be fundamentally the same as the 1987 model.
I don't think that any of the few 1986 W123/OM617 models were officially imported into the US of A. Such a thing would have to have been brought in by an owner moving from Europe or Asia to the US. Possible but unlikely.
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I highly doubt the 5 W123 300TDs made in 86 still exist. |
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I can't believe The w123 crowd allowed you to drive one.
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