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Old 04-18-2009, 07:04 AM
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Is my wagon toast? Oil pressure bouncing madly

83 TD. So after a long trip, it seems the fan clutch has given out. Anytime I stop, the temperature goes up.

After one hot episode of bumper-to-bumper traffic (managed by the heater, haha), the oil pressure decides to go crazy. I am talking about the needle bouncing madly enough to make a buzzing noise. It settles down to a twitch when the car is cool. Anyhow, the pressure has twitched (a little) like this one or two times before (months ago?), I put it out of my mind since it wasn't continuous. Well now it is continuous.

So any advice on what to do? I was thinking about sticking some 15w50 in it or something. Oh, and a reminder on how to diagnose fan clutches would be nice, might swing by a jy and grab one.

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Old 04-18-2009, 09:54 AM
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oil pressure- check your oil pump.
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Old 04-18-2009, 10:04 AM
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Hi

Before changing oil etc., you might want to verify what the oil pressure really is using another direct read guage.

"Twitching" is unusual. Perhaps some sludge has broken loose and is partialy blocking a line or relief valve - or you have a faulty guage.

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Old 04-18-2009, 10:21 AM
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It's a mechanical guage... not much to go wrong with it, is there?
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:06 AM
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check your O-rings on the oil filter canister. If they are hard they might not be sealing right. Is it fluctuating at idle or under load?
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:06 AM
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Hi

True. But with an unusual problem it pays to cover all possibilities starting with the easy ones

Its easier to rule out the guage and a partialy plugged oil line than to drop the pan and check the oil pump.

On the other hand it might be good to drop the pan and see whats there.

Joseph
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Old 04-18-2009, 11:42 AM
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The oil pressure relief valve is screwed into the bottom of the oil pump, and has been known to loosen up and even fall out. This is covered in the FSM, if you can determine that you don't have a gage problem, the relief valve could be a possiblity. The FSM says to reinstall loose valves with retaining compound--I called the dealer and they said use locktite.
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Old 04-18-2009, 12:01 PM
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The vibrating and buzzing of the oil pressure guage is a problem with the system itself. There are threads on the topic. I think there was a technical service bulletin on the problem and the fix is a small insert that goes in the line near the guage. Someone here bought the insert and posted pictures of it within the last couple of years.
The problem typically occurs after sustained driving at high speeds.
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check your O-rings on the oil filter canister. If they are hard they might not be sealing right. Is it fluctuating at idle or under load?
X2, I had a '79 SD which also saw the needle dance after it was driven hard but those o-rings hadn't been changed since Jimmy Carter was in the white house. I replaced them and all was well after that...try it first!
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Old 04-18-2009, 01:15 PM
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It would not be uncommon for a pressure reading gauge to have a cushioning/dampening fixture associated with it... .hope that is the problem..
Concerning the pressure relief falling out of the backside of the oil pump... this is true on many models but it is located elsewhere on some... and if one does have to go there be sure to put in the newest model available from MB as the replacement... there are different pressures associated with the different designs... ( I think " C " shown in the FSM is the latest ).

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