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Antifreeze pouring out of car.. 1987 300DT
Hello members!
Car: 1987 300 DT I have this weird problem. I dont think my car likes the antifreeze fluid at all. I have been having this issue where it will drain the complete reservoir tank every time i turn the car off. The tank cap had been changed about 2 years ago, and the thermostat has been replaced about 2 years ago also. Any ideas what is causing this flushing of the fluid? Thanks! |
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Cracked head,gasket,waterpump,stuck thermostat.
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the antifreeze is pouring from the bottom of the car, does that relate to some of the stuff you described?
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This weird problem you describe has a very esoteric scientific name. It is called "A Leak." Something has got a hole in it or has failed. If the leak is external and as bad as you describe it should be easy to find. It could be a cracked or punctured hose, a hole in the radiator, a crack in one of the radiator tanks or fittings, a bad water pump, or (less likely) a failed head gasket. Most of these are relatively easy and relatively inexpensive to repair. Relative to a cracked head or bad head gasket, that is. I have probably missed a few possibilities. With the way my luck has been running lately, I've probably missed your problem completely. I'm sure someone else will chime in here.
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If your car still has its belly pans, the fluid may be running out of the failure point, flowing along the pan to a low point and draining at that point. So don't assume the point of failure is immediately above where the fluid is trickling down.
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It sounds like excessive cooling system pressure is blowing it out through the overflow reservoir. This is a symptom of either a cracked head, or a head gasket that has an internal leak. I have the same issue on my car (87 300D). I'm getting things ready to do the big job myself. Fingers crossed for the gasket. A new head is gonna hurt my a$$.
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I replaced the head (and gasket, of course) on my '87 190D recently, so I feel your pain. Make sure you have a good machine shop pressure test the head. Mine had no visible cracks (and I'm pretty good at looking and finding). It turned out it was cracked behind one or two of the valve seats. I posted some pics on this on another thread a while back. Fortunately I got a good used head from another member here very reasonably. Unfortunately it is one of the very earliest castings, so I fear that I do not have a very long term solution.
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Hmm.. I see. Well when i took it to the dealer, the mechanic said he thought it was the water pump so i had a new waterpump sitting in my garage, i am fixing it as we speak. Dam thing takes forever to come out.
I hope the mechanic was right =/ I am also changing the belt tensioner, and the thermostat. Does anyone have a diagram of the thermostat in the 87 300DT, OM 603? Thanks! |
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Diagram showing what? I haven't figured out how to remove the thermostat without removing the 50*C switch just ahead of it. I don't remember if it takes a 22mm or 24mm wrench. There's a notch in the thermostat that corresponds to a tab in the radiator hose fitting so it only goes in one way.
[edit] Oops, too quick on the draw. I suppose the thermostat can be installed with the wrong end into the water pump housing. I have neither an image nor an old thermostat handy to advise you which end goes towards the water pump housing. Sixto 87 300D |
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You sure there's a T back on that trunk lid? Do you see this fluid being blown/forced out of the reservoir or is it just empty after a period of time? They are known to crack.
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the dealer sticker says that the build of the car is a 1987 300 DT.
so unless the dealer lied.. yes it sure is a 300 DT Its not blowing out of the reservoir tank, it is dripping from the bottom of the car somewhere. the under paneling of the car is removed, so all my tranny oil drips and this radiator fluid leaks are very visible. I assembled the pieces back this weekend after i changed the water pump and the thermostat. The thermostat housing was not closing completely i could only close 1 bolt, because the other bold had cracked inside, so i took the car to a shop and they are going to attempt to remove that broken bolt inside the housing. Hopefully that will stop the leak, because it was leaking from that housing. Last edited by shantibala; 05-27-2009 at 03:27 PM. Reason: more info |
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Ah..the dealer...did he/she look for "The Trunk Badge Of Truth"?
Hope the leak is fixed, did you ever get a good visual of where it was coming from? The thermostat housing? Or was it leaking from the water pump as well?
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That'd be a first, wouldn't it
Sixto 87 300D |
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300DT is the 300D turbo. confusing, as there is also a 300TD which is the wagon version of same car.
running with zero coolant is egregious in any vehicle, but especially in an OM603. Get er fixed. asap.
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I will keep you guys posted.
The water pump was bad, it was very loose, but yes it was leaking from my thermostat housing.. That thermostat is such a pain to change.. WOW! aAHH Anyone know how i can adjust the idol on the car? my idol is pretty low, its at ~700rpm |
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