York Compressor Question on 70 220D - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

JordaanDMC-12 · #16 07-16-2009, 10:11 AM

Here are the pictures I took this morning. The black hose is where I might have a leak problem. But I'm missing a cap on the suction side. Hopefully this is all I need.

I seriously think the A/C stopped working when he stored the car and it sat there for 17 years and then two years in a dirt lot. Last time is was legally on the road was 1994 lol (other than me owning/driving it).

280EZRider · #17 07-16-2009, 12:11 PM

I'm looking forward to leathermang's Sanden pics even though I've had my York for at least 19 years, so obviously the lack of longevity info is false. High speeds are where Yorkie performs best. As mentioned earlier, it's a power hog; hence, ineffective & noisy in-town.

charmalu · #18 07-16-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 75Sv1

If you look at E-Bay, there is a seller in TX that has brackets and compressors for a Sanden conversion.
Tom

there is the one guy listing the brackets for the York to sanden compressor covering MB from 1960 t0 81.

there is another listing for a CD "Mercedes GM-R4 to Sanden Compressor up grade new CD" $19.95. he has the brackets and some reworked oil cooler lines to be rerouted. just have to send your old ones back to him.
seller is JJMAJD

either way will have to put money into it to do it right.

I don`t envy living in Palm Springs, that is one hot hole.
Charlie

Mark DiSilvestro · #19 07-16-2009, 07:22 PM

The Yorks are pretty durable, but tend to be rough and noisy. Make sure all the mounting hardware is present and secure. Especially the bracket that goes from the bottom of the comressor and bolts to the motor-mount arm's attachment studs at the engine block.
After so many years, the clutch-pulley bearing may need replacing, as well as the compressor shaft seal. Find a parts place that has an old Murray AC catalog if you need these parts. If you do need to remove the pulley and replace the beaing or shaft seal, and plan on sticking with R12, you might consider a larger compressor pulley assy, I've had good luck fitting a larger than stock compressor pulley on some small-engined / low power vehicles, so the engine isn't working so hard and runs cooler, at the expense of some AC performance at idle.
If your 220D has a working aux electric radiator fan, it may be possble to wire it, via a relay, so it comes on with the compressor, instead of waiting for the fan's temp-sensor on the AC receiver-drier, thus improving AC idle performance a bit.

Happy Motoring, Mark

thorsen · #20 07-16-2009, 09:41 PM

Here is a picture comparing the Seltec/Sanden compressor to the York. I also attached a picture of the Seltec (and York-toSanden bracket) as it was mounted in my 250C.

280EZRider · #21 07-16-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thorsen

Here is a picture comparing the Seltec/Sanden compressor to the York. I also attached a picture of the Seltec (and York-toSanden bracket) as it was mounted in my 250C.

The 2 compressors don't have the same size hose connectors, do they?

leathermang · #22 07-17-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 280EZRider

I'm looking forward to leathermang's Sanden pics

My apologies, will get them tomorrow... have been dragging water hoses around in over 100 degree heat trying to save trees around the house...did not even remember the sanden pics today...

thorsen · #23 07-17-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 280EZRider

The 2 compressors don't have the same size hose connectors, do they?

No. The Seltec has O-ring fittings and the York has (I think) Rotalock fittings.

In my case it didn't matter because I made new hoses for it anyway.

#24 07-17-2009, 03:49 PM

This thread is wearing me out?

I drove a 69 230 gas car and then an early (77) 123 240D, both with lawn mower engine compressors and BOTH of these cars cool the cabin on a 105 degree day enough to make a Polar Bear scream for mercy around town or on the highway either one. I also drove numerous other vehicles with R12 systems and lawn mower engine compressors. They also would make you curse because you forgot and left your Parka at home.

The old York/Tecumseh's are filthy cheap as a rebuilt unit, and they rebuild EXTREMELY well.

Tell me. How much R12 can you buy for the cost of a Sanden conversion?

Sometimes I think that some people have some sort of allergy to air conditioning refrigerant that makes them forget their third grade math.

Unbelievable!

leathermang · #25 07-17-2009, 07:29 PM

Maybe I missed something...
The best combo is to keep the R12 AND change to a smoother lower drag compressor... particularly in the little engine auto in question...

So Larry, it sounds like your adjustment knobs on the dash were not working... your AC was on MAX all the time...

I got the pictures of the very simple m110 engine mount... it is not one that uses the old big superstructure associated with the York...
It is an easy to weld up set of flat plates which look like the only important part would be the front to rear measurement...

leathermang · #26 07-17-2009, 07:58 PM

Looks like I remembered wrong... Sankyo instead of Sanden... do not know how much different they are... but this is a pretty clean installation here...