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Ian White 08-24-2009 02:53 PM

What is the magic number for compression?
 
Give me an idea on what good compression will yield in terms of relative psi. Fair compression? Poor compression? Thanks

Brian Carlton 08-24-2009 02:57 PM

Due to the variability of the gauging, an absolute number is somewhat meaningless.

If all cylinders checkout within 10% of each other, you're probably good to go. I doubt that you'll find that all of them have worn equally down to 220 psi...............

300 psi is considered typical for a good engine (20.5:1 compression).

barry123400 08-24-2009 02:59 PM

You will be doing a cold compression check so about 300 pounds or higher would be nice across the board. Compression check is prefferably done with an engine at operational temperatures.

Junkman 08-24-2009 03:25 PM

I haven't had to run compression check on a diesel. Is it easier to access via glow plug or injector holes? Is a leak down test as useful as on a gasser for diagnosing the problem before dis-assembly?

barry123400 08-24-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman (Post 2277537)
I haven't had to run compression check on a diesel. Is it easier to access via glow plug or injector holes? Is a leak down test as useful as on a gasser for diagnosing the problem before dis-assembly?

Mandatory in my opinion. You really want to have a real indication of where the problem actually lays if possible before taking things apart.

winmutt 08-24-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman (Post 2277537)
I haven't had to run compression check on a diesel. Is it easier to access via glow plug or injector holes? Is a leak down test as useful as on a gasser for diagnosing the problem before dis-assembly?

To each their own. Most will say GP is easier, however if you haven't inspected your prechambers or cleaned your injectors now is an excellent time to do both.

Ian White 08-24-2009 06:34 PM

How do you remov the pre chamber?

barry123400 08-24-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian White (Post 2277677)
How do you remov the pre chamber?

You should keep us informed as you go along. It seems very early to ask about removal of prechambers. Or you have already moved way ahead of where we think you are. Have you done any tests yet? We all should be on the same page.

winmutt 08-24-2009 09:14 PM

No he misunderstood me. You don't pull the prechambers unless you have to. You do inspect for the atomizer ball. You do this when the injectors are out.

Ian White 08-24-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by winmutt (Post 2277772)
No he misunderstood me. You don't pull the prechambers unless you have to. You do inspect for the atomizer ball. You do this when the injectors are out.

I see it ( the atomizer ball) in there what should I be looking for?

winmutt 08-24-2009 09:39 PM

Mostly that it is still there. They have a nasty habit of breaking off and ruining your valve train. One of the few Achilles heels of this car.

Ian White 08-25-2009 12:13 AM

Okay did a compression test and wow someone sold me a worn engine. Comp test #'s: cyl 1: 76 psi, cyl2: 49 psi, cyl 3: 111 psi, cyl 4: 145 psi, cyl 5: 151 psi. So now I am going back to talk to him about a refund. The funny thing is when i had the pickup and pan off there wasnt a spec of junk down there just look like a normal oil pan with 215k. I am pissed, I am thinking about ceasing to own my benz. Its turning into a money pit uhh!

pawoSD 08-25-2009 12:17 AM

Yikes....sounds like a WVO'd engine....stuck rings across the board....and perhaps extra cylinder wear and coked valves and such too... :eek:

Ian White 08-25-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD (Post 2277915)
Yikes....sounds like a WVO'd engine....stuck rings across the board....and perhaps extra cylinder wear and coked valves and such too... :eek:

Actually, it was a wvo engine funny correlation eh? Is there any way to free stuck rings?

whunter 08-25-2009 02:25 AM

Answer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian White (Post 2277516)
Give me an idea on what good compression will yield in terms of relative psi. Fair compression? Poor compression? Thanks

Compression Experts Please Help!!
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1355903

OM 617 compression test results, cold engine, non-running
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1146951

help with compression test
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=341579

Engine Mechanical:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=142400



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