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08-28-2009, 11:33 PM
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1985 Torque Converter
What's the diffrence between the 1985 Torque converter and the Pre 1985 Torque converter is it bigger? and where can i buy one???
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08-28-2009, 11:55 PM
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No physicall difference. The difference is internal, the pre-'85's have a 1600rpm stall speed, while the '85 has a 2600rpm stall speed....its awesome. I just swapped an '85 trans and torque converter onto my car a month ago and it is a huge improvement. It allows you to get all of the torque from the 617 even at low speeds (and take-off)...so it pulls like crazy!
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08-29-2009, 12:54 AM
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can you swap TC with out changing the Transmission
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08-29-2009, 02:04 AM
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08-29-2009, 02:28 AM
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So the higher the stall speed the better or is there sweet spot range for the stall speed...
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08-29-2009, 03:38 AM
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08-29-2009, 08:36 AM
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Yep, the 617 makes much better power from 2200-2700rpm than it does at 1600, so it pulls a lot better with the later torque converter. It gives a weird sensation until you are used to it (like a slipping trans), but its normal.
 It is possible to swap just the torque converter, but the trans would have to be removed to do the swap.
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08-29-2009, 08:58 AM
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Maybe I should stop beating the dead horse? You already know who has several pre 85 and an 85 617 with transmission just sitting around....
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08-29-2009, 10:25 AM
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08-29-2009, 10:29 AM
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08-29-2009, 05:04 PM
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So it laggs at low end and really picks up @ 2600 RPM, just like the 300SDL? Right?
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