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Beware of motor mounts made in china
After buying a 1980 300sd a few weeks ago, I decided to change the oil cooler lines( not a pleasant job) and then the motor mounts. The company I bought the mounts from gave me two different brands. The left one was a meyle while the right one was a Febi which had a made in china sticker on it. After getting the mounts in I started the car and put it in drive only to hear and immediate grumbling or grinding sound on the right side of my car. After spending a half hour trying to diagnose it, I looked down and my brand new out of the box motor mount made in china was flat as a pancake. Needless to say I am a little depressed right now since I have to go back and do this job over. What brand of mounts do you guys usually use in your cars?
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Everything we buy now is made in china nowIve just replace my D/S mount with good O made in china,keeping an eye on it so far ok,replaced an drive axle,yes made in the people,s republic of china.Have to look long and hard to find anything made in the USA anymore,unless you want to buy an tank or missile.Just my 2 cents
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So what's the deal with the German OEM replacement parts outsourcing to PRC? I noticed that the last time I ordered parts with Meyle or Febi names on them. When I saw made in china on them, I didn't buy them.
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DJ 84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012 |
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I purchased both my motor mounts and Trannie mounts from Phil at this site. My engine sounds great. However, that was less then a month ago, so only time will tell.
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Professional greasecar installer Austin TX 98 Jetta TDI with grease car kit + veg-therm (totaled) 87 MB 300SDL running on B99 / greasecar kit + 30 fphe www.austingreaseguys.com |
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Get used to it. US is not a manufacturing power house anymore.
We cannot get through a day without using something that is made in China. Your cell phone is probably made in China. Car Radio, alarm, TV, coffee machcine etc etc. The list go on and on. China hold the most US Treasury Bond and if they stop buying them then US will be in deep s***. Or if they call the loan... Majority of the stimulus money came from China/Japan/Germany. US is broke.
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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I refuse to give in to this thought. We actually have the power to force merchants to give us what we want. You and I can easily refuse to purchase anything made in china. No one makes us buy that stuff. The money is in your wallet. You make the decision with every dollar that you spend.
Wanna be a sheep, keep buying chinese crap. It's ultimately your fault if you give in.
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DJ 84 300D Turbodiesel 190K with 4 speed manual sold in 03/2012 |
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I have recentlu gotten made in germany mounts, installed them, no problemo. They are out there. May take looking but I had no giant problems getting them.
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Strelnik Invest in America: Buy a Congressman! 1950 170SD 1951 Citroen 11BN 1953 Citroen 11BNF limo 1953 220a project 1959 180D 1960 190D 1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr 1983 240D daily driver 1983 380SL 1990 350SDL daily driver alt 3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5 3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6 |
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Almost all of the rubber I have replaced on my car including the Motor and Transmission mounts are unmarked as to the Country of orgin Uro parts.
The Uro website claims they are made in many different places in the workd. None have failed so far but it has been less than 1 year on the car for some of the parts. The ever present problem is like the Bosch Injector Nozzles; one day they are made in Germany or France; the next day India of China (I read they built a big Plant there). When you order parts you will not know where they are comming from; even with a brand name on them.
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DJ, you are the man! Well said, I completely agree. But as for the mounts look maybe for a parts car or on ebay, I found a rear tranny mount on eBay for $12 made in Germany the Dealer wanted like $75+ or something outrageous, Bottom line don't go the Chinese route anyone!!
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Regards, Ian White 1995 E300 Diesel w124 OM606 2014 E550 w212 M278 biturbo 2001 BMW 740i E38 M62 (past) 1981 300SD w126 OM617 (past) |
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The issue is that one failed mount is NOT statistically significance to brand any mount made in China is crap. In addition, OP had not done a failure mode analysis yet. You can always shop around and pay a premium for made in Germany parts.You cannot have it both ways.
This is a global economy and things are built or assembled all over the world. The Laptop I am using to post this message is made in China. So much for my 2 cents.
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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Chinese products equal problems
I'm sitting on a timebomb at work.
Most of our chemicals are bought from China. We don't have enough instruments or workers to test everything we get and have to rely on the manufacturer's guarantee for many items. I just hope I can get to retirement or win the lottery before the Chinese stuff bites me in the ass.
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1983 300SD "Guderian" 1987 MR2 2015 Camry 2015 Chevy Spark 2006 Hyundai Tucson |
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i use strictly meyle for mounts. reputable mbz shop nearby who did all my motor and drive train mounts says febi and uro are crap and refuse to use it except for certain parts for uro.
replacing oil cooler lines is a major pita. the best way to do it without the hassle is to simply remove the injector pump. with that out of the way, you have access to the bolts which attach the cooler line to a bracket that's otherwise hard to reach. i recently removed the oil pump housing and oil cooler lines. to remove the housing, i also removed the steering box, just to get to one allen bolt that holds the oil pump housing in place. it's a ****ty job, but someone's gotta do it |
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what's the mr2's name, tojo? |
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I just purchased a set of Karlyn mounts...will report back when i install them.
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Current cars: 2000 ML55 AMG, 174k miles 2003 C240 T-Modell, 202k miles 1995 S320, 207k Miles |
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I've generally been satisfied with the parts I get from a local MB parts supplier, but a couple months ago, I needed a flex-disc for the front end of my 240D driveshaft. They sold me one for $40, in a box where someone had tried to black out the 'made in China' part of the sticker. The rubber felt hard as a rock, and when installed, it was like I had bolted the shaft to the tranny-flange with a piece of plywood! Concerned with the effects of this lack of flexibility on my 27-year-old tranny's output shaft bearing and aluminum housind, I paid $72 for another flex-disc from my local Mercedes dealer and hopefully it's made in Germany, (There was a 'Germany' printed on the box, but without the 'made in') Or at least it's made somewhere with better quality control than the first one.
I realize that the economic meltdown has further pressured parts suppliers to cut corners, so I'll need to scrutinize the parts I buy much more closely. But in any case, the flex-joint I got from Merceedes does flex sufficiently to calm my nerves. Happy Motoring, Mark
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