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Help with 350SDL glow plug wiring
My glow plug relay on the 300SDL is going bad so I decided to replace it with the unit used on the 350SDL and 350SD which has after glow. The problems I did not consider are two fold. First off I have the 350SDL wiring diagram but it does not identify which wires are attached to which pins on the smaller 5 pin plug. The plug IDs are 50, 31, 15, LA and T. Does anyone have that information available? I need either the wiring color code to each pin or the identification of the device each wire comes from.
The second problem is that I would love to find one of the 5 pin plugs so the installation is clean. I am more than willing to buy the plug unit and pay for shipping. I figure someone out there has one from one of the later 603 installations. Thanks a ton!
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3.0 and 3.5 have different part numbers for glow plugs. You may have to change them also.
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Thanks. You are right. Now the question is why?? If it has to do with longevity because of the afterglow, then I can stick with the ones I have as they have maybe 10K on them. Comparing the pictures of both years, the plug appear to be the same in size and length. Does anyone out there know why they are different part numbers?
Thanks
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350s have a differently shaped prechamber.
-J
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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states! Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels. 2014 Cadillac ELR 2013 Fiat 500E. |
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Thank you. That makes sense and would suggest I can just stick with the current units and change to the new relay without issues, well other than re-wiring and finding a 5 pin plug.
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old goat 86 300SDL - 207K 84 300DT - 298K - sold 78 450SL - 97K 61 Porsche - rare T-5 Karmann Hardtop - NO, NOT a Karmann Ghia 99 Suburban 4x4 - 247K all original, the family donkey |
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I have a 91 350 sdl that blew the original engine-I put an earlier engine in and the only way it would work was to use the afterglow plugs with the afterglow relay- my glow light wouldn't come on until I did- I updated the system totally and it starts great- also I am told the old style plugs don't have a great life span when used with afterglow- I can't verify this. Brian
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Thanks Brian. I will have to see what happens. I thought perhaps longevity was the issue. I have asked the question of Beru but do not have a response yet.
Frank
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You will want the glow plugs for a 300D 2.5 turbo ('90-'93 300D / 602 turbo) or the 1987 190D 2.5 Turbo. The 2.5 did not have the angled-injection and different prechambers of the 3.5L, but it did have afterglow.
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Thanks for that information. I will keep that in mind for the next set of plugs. The current units are not very old so will hold up for a while. I will just have to keep an eye on them and periodically measure resistance. I had thought a little about those 2.5 plugs but was not sure about their use so your information is greatly appreciated!
Frank
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The GP controller from the 350 will monitor the plugs for you. If one goes out it will turn on the GP light after the engine is running.
-J
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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states! Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels. 2014 Cadillac ELR 2013 Fiat 500E. |
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If #1 goes out it will, it takes two of the #2-#6 plugs out to signal you of a failure.
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