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Brake-related squeal on 240 4-speed
I've been commuting in the 240D 4spd this week, which has been a little white-knuckle at times. The little guy has done pretty well, although today on the way to work it was awful grid-lock stop'n'go traffic. After a while I started getting a short, very high-pitched squeal on applying the brakes, but after the car came to a stop. My educated (sort of) guess is the clutch. I'm new to stick and have gotten pretty good at it, but this was my first effort in this type of traffic and I was heavy on the clutch. Thoughts? Is this just me burning up the clutch because I'm a novice at stick, or might I have a new problem waiting in a dark alley to accost me? Hopefully I just need to learn how to drive ...
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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Are you in gear holding the clutch while stopped? It's a lot easier on everything if you put it in neutral and take your foot off the clutch..
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And to think I was starting to get a little cocky about my stick skills.
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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I dunno, if the squeal occurs only when you apply the brakes, when the car is stationary, I'm tempted to say it's a brake/vacuum problem. But don't quote me on that.. it's a ventured guess.
Someone can correct me if this is just myth or not, but as a rule of thumb, I try to not have the clutch pressed for more than 5 to 6 seconds at a time. "Problems down the road" were cited as the reason
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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Just to add to 4X4s comment , dont get in the habit of "resting" any part of your foot on the clutch pedal while underway.
I thought for sure it was your "low brake pad" warning until you said you were stopped. Happy motoring, I really enjoy driving my stick 240s, maybe not so much if I had to drive in bumper to bumper traffic all the time tho
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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car" |
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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Another possibility that slipped my mind earlier- It very well could just be a suspension squeak. My Courier does this so bad it gets stares, and I know the 240s do that as well.
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And that would probably be "DON'T PULL OUT IN FRONT OF IT" Yes?
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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car" |
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Why would the suspension squeak if the car is stationary and he applies the brakes?
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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi |
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What I might suggest doing (I'm still a diesel amateur) is get a friend over, and have him listen, outside the car, and try to locate where the sound is coming from.
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Nothing I have read in this thread so far seems to rule out the clutch throw-out bearing. Makes a squeal when car is brought to a stop and is left in gear with clutch pedal down. Is this correct?
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1961 190Db retired 1968 220D/8 325,000 1983 300D 164,150 |
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No, according to the OP it occurs AFTER the car is stopped; that is, pressing down on the brake pedal when the car is already stationary.
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I didn't read her description that way, so maybe if Ms. Bodhi could chime in we could clear this up.
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1961 190Db retired 1968 220D/8 325,000 1983 300D 164,150 |
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As you slow, the front suspension compresses, then it returns to ride height as soon as you stop slowing down, whether that's when you simply release the brakes and continue rolling, or come to a complete stop. So, if you get a single pronounced squeak right when you come to a complete stop, it would fit.
I didn't really think of it before because I have tuned that out on my truck. |
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