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Curious Thought Common Rail ?
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I'm just curious here is it possible or heard of converting a 240D into common rail injection ? with the efficiency, emissions and power advantage! and imagine that with a turbo! anywhoo this was just a random thought I had is it actually possible to do this, are'nt the injectors operated through a solenoid valve? think of a W115 with this a 240D!!! |
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The common rail system is pressurized up to something like 20,000 psi, so you'd need a different injection pump, and mating that to the block and timing it would be pretty tough.
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Not to mention piezoelectric injectors and a computer to control them.....
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also, the piston and head are significantly different on common rail motors. with Direct Injection.
just changing to CRI would not improve anything.
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Yeah, power, efficiency and emissions are much more closely related to other aspects of the engine design, not just the injection system. If you did it, it'd cost a lot, probably not be reliable, difficult to work on and would probably not give you any measurably advantage.
Sorry to burst yo bubble, bro.
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Probably be easier to plop a CDI into a 240. Though that wouldn't be easy either.
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I do think just swapping in a newer motor would be easier. Isn't there an India company that still makes a 2.4 D motor that is updated? Tom |
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You would need the full package. Electrically (piezo) actuated injectors, pressure sensors, rail, new injection pump, computer.
If you can do it and add turbo with intercooler with standard shift, you'd have one heckofa 240D. You'd have some serious bragging rights. I don't know if a 240D is designed for that kind of strain though.
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-What converting the head to a direct injection, instead of a glow plug indirect injection engine.
-What about compression ratio, i'm sure it would be different. -I think swapping another engine in would be far easier and reliable and cheaper in the long run.
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swapping just the head for a DI head would leave no place for combustion to occur... with DI motors, the combustion chamber is built into the design of the piston. our IDI motors have the combustion chamber in the head... take that away and you have two flat surfaces, and noplace for combustion...
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