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overfilled oil
What potential damage can too much oil do? Son checks the oil yesterday after a chiding from me about his not checking it weekly like I'd told him to. It was at the low mark. He added oil. I took the car to town on some errands and stopped for fuel. Checked it again and it's now about 1/8 to 1/4 inch ABOVE the high mark.
Should I drain some?
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Suck some out the dipstick tube.
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I should make the kid do it with his mouth. Barring that, how else would I do it?
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I just drained some with the plug when mine was above. You won't be able to change the washer, though, so you might drip a little until your next change. Mine didn't, though.
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Find a 3' length of clean 1/4" OD polyethylene tubing. Hook it to the end of a suction gun. Or even tape it to the end of a turkey baster, but that would take a while - perhaps your son could sit there and correct the level 1/4 cup at a time.
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You might be to high
I don't think a real "eighth or quarter" over will hurt much. I would let it sit over night and check it next day. That would allow for a very accurate check and you might find it 3/4 inch over, and that is too much. At this time your oil will be cold, making it easier to drop a quart or two out of the drain plug. Catch it in a clean pan or container so in the event you dropped too much, it will be easy to replace. I know, a little messy - let the kid do it.
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Attention!
Make certain your air filter is clean if you are unable to lower the level immediately. The large danger is a runaway engine where the fuel is your engine oil whipped up and supplied via mist to the intake tract.
With a dirty air filter the PCV passages will have proportionately higher vacuum. |
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X2 with Kevin !!
I would not drive it with that much oil in it in case it takes off with a runaway. If it does, put it into top gear & brake hard till it stops. That should stall it.
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I'm quite surprised that anyone would suggest pulling the plug for a second to let some out. It's a guaranteed mess. Sucking a bit out the dipstick tube is easy, even if you lack an extractor. |
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Matt,
I think you will find that the car in question is a manual. Check his signature (240 4spd euro). So no turbo to make a run away reel bad either!! A plastic 2 quart ice cream container is good for catching the oil. Done it once or twice!!
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That helps for him, Layback. I do have signatures and avatars turned off, so I did not see it. But more important, the signature can change in the future. He could put an automatic in there, which would show up under that very post in the future. That could cause some confusion.
Please folks, put the car in question in the message itself, not relying on your signature or avatar. |
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All is good Matt !! I agree that we should always describe the car in the post so that every one isnt second guessing.
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Hehe I bet he checked the oil right after he turned the car off. I did that once on my old honda.
You need to wait at least 15-25 minutes. I just wait 30 after I turn it off to check it. Live and lessons learned
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It all depends on how much. All these runaway and foaming situations -- yes, they're possible. But it'd have to be SERIOUSLY overfilled. I don't personally consider 1/4 inch on the stick "significant" especially since in 500-1000 miles, if it's anything like mine, it'll leak or burn down to the correct level. "He added oil"? How much? On almost all of these things, low mark to high mark is give or take one quart. If he added one from the low mark and went about his business, I wouldn't even worry about it. If he started in on a second additional quart, I'd probably do some more investigation. They have to have logically built at least a small safety factor into this. It's not rocket science to fill a crankcase; any smart engineer would know that half these engines would get the Jiffy Lube express treatment and get over or underfilled by a small percentage -- and that it wouldn't be much of an engine that couldn't tolerate it. |
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+1 surely there is overdesign, at least to allow up to the next integer number of quarts to be put in and driven... In case of lazy mechanics fuming in whole quarts/gallons. A quick look at the dipstick after operations will quickly give insight into possible issues...
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