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1983 300tdt wagon no start
Well I bought 2 wagons last week in plans to make one nice one. I scored a deal well what I thought on an 83 Turbo diesel wagon. The motor has 350k on it and he ran it for the past 2 years on wvo until now it has ulsd in it. So long story short it doesnt start, cranks over just fine but no start. I know for sure there is no fuel leaving the injection pump, I cracked the lines and checked it out no discharge. I have new fuel filters and he rigged up an electric pump bypassing the lift pump on the side of the block. Now is there some type of valve that would not allow fuel to be discharged from the injection pump? Its getting the supply but not compressing it and delievering it. I know on Cummins engines they have fuel shut off valves and if it is faulty its a no go.. Long babble but I am confused and looking for input. Thanks!
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Before you go any further, you should do a search on here concerning WVO. It sounds like your motor is typical of those run on WVO for a time. There is plenty of info about the problems & how to fix them.
To quote an ex member your motor has been subject to " Death in a jug". Good luck!!
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There is a vacuum operated shut off valve on the back of hte IP. pull off the brown vacuum line and it's out of the equation although they rarely fail in the 'off' position.
I agree. Your symptoms are typical of death in a jug. Some people have resuscitated such murder victims, one by running a solvent thru the IP. The other option is to swap in a different IP if you happen to have one laying around.
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Thank you for the responses. He told me he let it sit for 6 months so that had me thinking it is gummed up.. I will research death in a jug. Would I be able to swap in an IP from a NA 617 and still net the same power? Or are the delivery valves different? Thanks
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No fuel enrichment circuit (the alda) on a n/a injection pump. Do not do the injection pump change without cleaning everything out properly. Costs little but time to get the fuel up usually.
Then you can establish if you need another injection pump. While cleaning out the fuel system a good soaking of the rings and pistons with miracle mystery oil would not hurt either. Change the oil right after as you may have partially contaminated oil in the base of the engine from the vegatable oil burning. In otherwords avoid spending much money until you find out if what you have is worth pursueing. I think in your case I might do a compression check and soaking with the miracle oil if the compression is too low before anything else. |
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ok i will give this a try and let you know how it turns out...
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try hooking up the stock lift pump before you start taking apart the injection pump.Make sure your electric pump is working.Also check your primer pump to make sure its not sucking air.
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10-4. First thing I did was check to make sure the electric pump is working, but it doesnt hurt to try again. Thanks
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