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Old 04-28-2010, 08:06 AM
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If it was magnesium, there would be nothing left of it in the salt!!

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Old 04-28-2010, 08:39 AM
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I wish we had something like Pick and Pull around here. We don't have anything that even aspires to be like it. Anyone have any leads in Atlanta? Memphis is like 6hrs away
There is a yard off I24 in Manchester. Exit 111 or 114? I think its European parts. He had multiple 126s a while back. I'm cheap so have only bought a window regulator from him.

Also, see if European Imports 615-848-0046 in Murfreesboro still has any. They used to have a car or 2 sitting around. They have a good reputation but I've gone back to doing my own work.

Edit: I may have to go west & may be able to meet up with Daw in my Ram. It will be 3 weekends at least.
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Several years ago on my '82 240D, I used three jacks to do my first trailing-arm replacement. I was able to lower the trailing-arm, differential, and left side of the crossmember. Just enough to clear the outer trailing-arm bolt and relieve spring tension, so I didn't need a spring compressor. I didn't remove the whole crossmember, which made reassembly much easier.
The biggest hassle might be getting the crossmember-bolt, out as they're often rusted/seized to the crossmember bushing sleeve. I got lucky on my car.
At the time I didn't know about Pick-N-Pull, and none were in the immediate Alexandria area anyway, so I paid $150 for a good used arm with good bushings and bearing from my local indie MB parts-place. They had several in the back-room to inspect and choose from. Otherwise, I might have had to extract a used one myself at a salvage-yard, and many yards don't allow one to bring in jacks, so being my first trailing arm replacement, it worked out OK. The job took most of a Sunday to complete.

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Old 04-28-2010, 10:16 AM
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day_two If I pull up to the house towing a parts car it would just be to pick up a bag of clothes and the divorce papers. If I were to try to buy a parts car I would have to have it gone again fast . If I stripped out a donor car at my house I don't know how I would get the carcass back on a trailer to get it out of here. Do you have an arm you can sell me? The problem is going to be what dropnosky says...

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if the trailing arm was that rusted, you may have some issues with hardware removal to drop the suspension.

I would crawl under there and see just how corroded all the nuts and bolts are, and I would get access to an oxy-acetylene torch just for good measure.

Something that would take a day and a half with good hardware, may take you a week if you can't move the nuts and bolts.
THANKS, for using the small "d" in my userid.

Here are my thoughts --- you could leave the parts car on the "borrowed" trailer and park it at someone else's house; strip it; then take it to the scrapyard --- they could unload it for you.

Another thought --- evaluate what you need; drive down
here with your tools and I'll help you pull whatever you
need; if you don't know what you need, just come down
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You might even get a chance to see my other diesels.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:50 AM
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According to this chart, the W126 trailing arms for the 126.039 are interchangable with the W123 trailing arms.



The curious part is that the 126.039 is a 560SEL, which does not have the same trailing arm as any W123 or W114/115 I've ever owned....

The 560SEL, and I suspect, the 560SEC have a forged or cast light metal (magnesium?) arm, which if this chart is correct, would be a direct sub for the rust prone stamped steel type.

It would seem worthwhile to seek out a set of these arms, if indeed they interchange directly....

Euro 500s also have 560SEL style trailing arms.

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Seem there was a thread about a year back, where there was this discussion about the aluminium arms whether they fit or not.

I don`t remember any real definate answer to it.

I`ll do some searching around to see what I can find. 10-23 (stand by).

OK, finally found the thread. "Upgrading w123 Rear trailing arms to Aluminium w126 ones possible"?

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=246721

It was back in march 09, so a little over a yr ago.



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Old 04-29-2010, 11:32 PM
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Hi,No big deal. I grabbed one at the local junk yard a year or so back for a friend on the western slope. It cost about $30.00 and some shipping.It wili take you a couple of hours if you change the whole cornor. That would be the easiest.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:50 PM
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After some promising Craigslist leads 2hr away in Atlanta the Craigslist flakeout factor kicked in and none of the sellers materialized.
Possible find for $100 at a junkyard in Dalton 30 minutes away. They insist on bringing the old one in to confirm a match which actually seems like a reasonable idea.
Thanks for the leads in Manchester/Murphesboro that's "only" 1.5hr away.
It would be nice to go check out daw_two's stash but 6hr away is impractical if I can figure out something closer. That's pretty much adding 12hrs to the job.
Im due to leave town Monday so the carcass will have to sit till I get back.
If I could find one for $30 I'd be very happy.

The aluminum discussion is interesting. Are they painted or natural metal colored?
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Old 05-01-2010, 08:01 AM
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The odd thing about this is that it is always the right rear..I had the same problem and the right one is all rusted out and the left one is near perfect.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:23 PM
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
After three days of wrestling with putting this auto drain contraption on my air compressor I finally got to roll my sleeves up and go at this.
Including trips for tools after about 8 hrs I got it 95% out without a single swear word.
Then I hit a wall with getting the parking brake line loose. I cant figure it out. Ive taken off the return spring. Ive taken out the adjuster bolt. I cant get enough slack to get the line loose even with adjusting the star adjuster all the way out.
How do you get it apart from the wheel end of things?
Also one bolt of the Trailing arm needs just 1/4" more clearance to be able to get out past the driveshaft. So I started dropping the rear end onto a jack and the compressor gadget blows up again.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:12 PM
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The right side of the car in the countries where we drive on the right side of the road always gets more salt and dirt and so rusts worse.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:26 PM
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The odd thing about this is that it is always the right rear..I had the same problem and the right one is all rusted out and the left one is near perfect.
Closest to the gutter, more water/salt/slush spray etc.... Under my 300SD the body is more rusted (was) on the passeneger side than drivers side, for that same reason I suspect. It has all been worked on/repaired, but it was a lot worse on that side, almost nothing on the drivers side.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:03 AM
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
After three days of wrestling with putting this auto drain contraption on my air compressor I finally got to roll my sleeves up and go at this.
Including trips for tools after about 8 hrs I got it 95% out without a single swear word.
Then I hit a wall with getting the parking brake line loose. I cant figure it out. Ive taken off the return spring. Ive taken out the adjuster bolt. I cant get enough slack to get the line loose even with adjusting the star adjuster all the way out.
How do you get it apart from the wheel end of things?
Also one bolt of the Trailing arm needs just 1/4" more clearance to be able to get out past the drive-shaft. So I started dropping the rear end onto a jack and the compressor gadget blows up again.
Replace the air compressor auto drain contraption with a ball valve...

There is a silver pin on the central brake cable equalization lever.
Remove the cotter pin and push the pin out.
Dismount the lever.

The brake cable should now be off..


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Old 05-14-2010, 08:28 AM
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My one and only trailing-arm job was on the left/drivers side of my first 240D. The used replacement I selected was complete and in good condition, except that they had torched the brake cable. I unhooked my good cable from the equalizer-link, and pulled the clip to release it's sleeve from the tunnel-mounted bracket.
Then I removed the rusted trailing-arm unit, complete with the cable, and transfered that good cable to the replacement unit outside the car. The cable is secured to a tiny round pin inside a link attached to the tiny parking-brake shoes. You need enough slack to swing that link out far enough to clear and drop the pin. You'll probably need to disassemble that side's parking-brake. It's a real pain if, like mine, the hub is still in the way. Much easier if you've already pulled the hub because you had to replace the bearing.
By the way, I didn't use an air compressor.

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Old 05-14-2010, 09:01 AM
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three trailing arms available

I have a matched aluminum set (yes, both)
and
one steel trailing arm (passenger side)

from the w126 donor cars --- stripped those trailing arms off before the cars went to the scrapyard this week.

I have a road trip planned to Atlanta, GA in the next couple of weeks. I'd be happy to meet you in Roswell, GA or someplace in between.
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Old 05-14-2010, 11:19 AM
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There is a silver pin on the central brake cable equalisation lever.
Remove the C-clip and push the pin out.
Dismount the lever.
Back to the battle to try this. It doesn't look like mine has this pin though if you are talking about the middle contraption that connects the two separate cables to each back tire. Ive already threaded out the adjusting screw. Is there a place in the front somewhere where I can disconnect the main cable to get more slack?

Also am I doing something wrong in that Im having to fiddle with trying to move the driveshaft/rear end assembly to get this bolt out? Im going to wrangle up some more jacks to try to manipulate the different parts separately.

Believe me I pulled that autodrain nonsense off the compressor last night. Put the conventional drain back.

daw_two hopefully this project won't come off the rails so bad that I have to stay disassembled for weeks. The goal is to have the old one out and pick up the new used one today. Wish me luck.
I think we would all be curious how the aluminium and steel ones compare when weighed on a scale. Many in the performance world consider "unsprung" weight in the driveline to be like a 5 to 1 equivalent to overall weight in the vehicle. As in: remove 1 pound from the driveline is like removing 5 pounds of weight from the car.

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