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Sag and Tilt: rear of 82' 300TD - questions
1982 300TD Wagon - Ava. 345k miles.
I'm fishing for thoughts about the SLS. Right now, I'm convinced she's in need of a new pair of Accumulators - rides like "a boat in the water". We haul sound equipment a majority of the time, and winding roads are a nightmare - 2 years ago she drove nice... Anyway, Ava has sagged on the drivers side since we brought her home 3 or 4 years ago - our mechanic, when asked about it, stated it needed new accumulators. NOW it's obvious it needs new ones, as the handling has definitely deteriorated over the last couple years. ***AND the ride height is low - I can see much too much camber in the rear - tires wearing off on the inside!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT, I'm wondering if bad accumulators could make it sag/tilt to one side? Is 'maybe' the one on the drivers side 'worse' than the other? :/ THOUGHTS: if my understanding of the system is correct, as I attempt to visualize it in motion: if the diaphragms in the accumulators burst, the ride will be hard; but if much, but not all the nitrogen gas has 'dissipated', then the ride gets softer... (?) I've been thinking on this one a while, and that's the only thing I can come up with... OK, I'm rambling... So, I rebuilt the SLS valve last year - solved the overnight sag. (thanks Andrew!) ***What I'm wondering, as I'm readying to order parts this afternoon, is should I be assuming a new pair of springs for the rear are in order??? ...and is changing the springs likely to end up costing much more - ?say, I (or a paid mechanic) busted a fitting off one of the actuators??? Is this likely to happen??? Oh, and, since I want to flush the SLS system, how many Liters of febi fluid should I order (yes, along with a new filter |
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...and spending the afternoon searching and reading posts, about makes it sound like I should just go ahead and replace the SLS hydraulic hose too - just as good measure?
So, where does this hose start, and end? Five feet long??? |
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Replace those accumulators sooner than later, they protect the SLS system from damage. I wouldnt bother with new springs.
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Good idea to change the high pressure hose. After I changed my accumulators, rebuilt my SLS valve and flushed and installed new fluid - the hose blew and dumped all of my new fluid on the driveway. You just buy new hose at a hydralic shop and change your fitting from the old hose to the new. There is a very nice thread by kerry on repairing the hose. Also a good idea to check the adjustable connecting rod that connects the SLS valve arm to the sway bar arm - the plasic inselts fall apart with time Good Luck, Joseph |
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about the tilting, you should get down and look very closely at the springs. the lr spring on mine had the lowest coil broken off of it. i thought it was sagging so bad because the sls was removed before i bought it, and i was told thats why, but when i went to install heavier springs i found the broken coil. it did seem to lean left at times, just a little. after replacing the spring it sits nice and feels much better over bumps.
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Great - thanks for the help y'all!
The drivers side is 1"+ low, as I remember measuring last time it was in the alignment shop - and is of course worse if only the driver is in the car... amazing how notable it is - look out the window of a restaurant, or such, and see it. I have looked for a broken spring before, and found none. I'll do the Accumulators and see what happens. And I'll just order a new hose with the rest of the parts. Seems it's the res to pump line (?) so not under much pressure. I'll see if the supplier has a new valve link, just to be thorough. Happy Days - G |
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Have a read through this.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=271570 Accumulators will make a world of difference. Mine was all bouncy and floaty in the rear. Put in new accumulators, and all was good. Did you get your valve rebuilt?
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Make sure you use the correct fluid in the sls, wrong fluid is a sure way to kill accumulators.
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Yes, thanks Andrew - I rebuilt the valve, and it sure stopped the sagging overnight thing.
that was a tricky booger to get out - silly little lines all stacked in together... |
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