'82 240d - Recommend a shop manual? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

camsna · #1 07-01-2010, 09:02 PM

What should I get?

Thanks!

Diesel911 · #2 07-01-2010, 09:19 PM

The one that has the most information for the money you spend comes direct from the Mercedes Classic center.
Factory Service Manual CD Set $19.99+$7 shipping
http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=Retail&category%5Fname=1009%28ClassicTechLit%29&product%5Fid=QL%2D6516%2D5610%2D02%28ClassicTechLit%29

There is no Transmission or Turbo rebuilding covered. The info can be tedious to find when you are in a hurry and it does not have a lot of good pics. But, it covers the whole car.
About 1.5 years ago a set of Books that covered the same info sold used on eBay for $360. The printed manuals are easier to read and the pics are clearer and there is a few items of info in them not in the CD set but it will take you awhile to accumulate a set of them as they normally do not sell as a complete set.
The Haynes or Chilton Manuals do not cover much with the exception that the Haynes Mercedes-Benz Diesel 123 Series Manual has Manual Transmission rebuild info. If you want one of those get a used one on eBay or Amazon.

camsna · #3 07-01-2010, 09:30 PM

Many thanks! I've been disappointed with Haynes and Chilton (especially Haynes!) in the past. I appreciate the help!

leathermang · #4 07-01-2010, 10:23 PM

I have paper manuals for my 123... both the MB and Haynes...
I find I need both for lots of things..
pictures are better in the Haynes when it addresses something...
but the MB manual has all the warnings... but clearly was not written by a native American speaker... and pictures are often lacking in either quality or number.
The paper MB manuals for the 123 include two chassis manuals, one turbo 5 cyl engine, one 4 cyl NA 616, and 5 cyl NA617 combined, electrical, AC, maintenance,auto and manual trans rebuild manual, and perhaps more I don't remember....

#5 07-02-2010, 05:44 PM

Including the 123 mileage on my wife and kids cars, I maintained somewhere close to one million miles of these cars with no reference material beyond this forum and a Haynes manual that is now quite tattered and dirty.

Not much of my reference came from this forum since about 800,000 of those miles had already transpired before I ever found MShop.

leathermang · #6 07-02-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

Including the 123 mileage on my wife and kids cars, I maintained somewhere close to one million miles of these cars with no reference material beyond this forum and a Haynes manual that is now quite tattered and dirty. Not much of my reference came from this forum since about 800,000 of those miles had already transpired before I ever found MShop.

What exactly is that supposed to mean ?
That others, about to tackle specific jobs on their cars do not really need the official information put out by the factory?

Smart people make all the info that is reasonably available part of their repertory... So they are not completely at the mercy of the randomness of who shows up to answer a question they may have.

Or the ability to guess what nomenclature is best to use in
a search for what you need to know... and often people do not even know what they need to know....

MB engineers thought differently than American manufacturers... so one can have a lot of mechanic experience and it be of no help.. or even be a hindrance when one first addresses MB ' LOGIC' .....

Most people know this stuff... expensive or hard to find old car stuff is not where one wants to use the " IF all else fails, read the manual " ...
Of course ' self appointed alleged trolls' are often willing to post illogical irrelevant anecdotes just to see who will argue the other side.
If Larry has me back on his ' ignore ' list he won't even see this !! LOL

ah-kay · #7 07-02-2010, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leathermang

What exactly is that supposed to mean ?
That others, about to tackle specific jobs on their cars do not really need the official information put out by the factory?

Smart people make all the info that is reasonably available part of their repertory... So they are not completely at the mercy of the randomness of who shows up to answer a question they may have.

Or the ability to guess what nomenclature is best to use in
a search for what you need to know... and often people do not even know what they need to know....

MB engineers thought differently than American manufacturers... so one can have a lot of mechanic experience and it be of no help.. or even be a hindrance when one first addresses MB ' LOGIC' .....

Most people know this stuff... expensive or hard to find old car stuff is not where one wants to use the " IF all else fails, read the manual " ...
Of course ' self appointed alleged trolls' are often willing to post illogical irrelevant anecdotes just to see who will argue the other side.
If Larry has me back on his ' ignore ' list he won't even see this !! LOL

x2

The OP is asking for advice for a manual. NOT the bragging rights of XXX,XXX miles without any manual.

Diesel911 · #8 07-02-2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryBible

Including the 123 mileage on my wife and kids cars, I maintained somewhere close to one million miles of these cars with no reference material beyond this forum and a Haynes manual that is now quite tattered and dirty.

Not much of my reference came from this forum since about 800,000 of those miles had already transpired before I ever found MShop.

The above is OK. But, the truth is the $27 spent on the CD Manual set will pay for itself very quickly.

And, while this and other forums have valuable information having your own manual when you need it is invaluable.