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Old 08-12-2010, 09:24 AM
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Troubleshooting flickering Temp Needle/Sensor on 300D

Just started to do this on me last week. Reads in the 85-90C range most of the time, but occasionally drops to zero every so often.

This is the gauge that measures water temp, just to the left of the oil pressure gauge on a 1982 300D.

I'd like to trace the connections back from the source, and if it is in the dash components, to forget about fixing it. But if it's loose along the way I suspect I can probably fix it.

Does anybody know where this sensor originates on the 'sending' end? Is it somewhere on the radiator block?

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Old 08-12-2010, 09:28 AM
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The temp sender (single wire) is in the middle of the block near the glow plugs. Try cleaning the connection there. Other places to check are the various grounds including connections inside the cluster.
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Old 08-12-2010, 09:52 AM
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Sounds like the temp sensor itself may be ready to go. I had a similar issue on my VW TDI (I know, different animal) but just the same, a new sensor fixed the issue.
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Sounds like the temp sensor itself may be ready to go. I had a similar issue on my VW TDI (I know, different animal) but just the same, a new sensor fixed the issue.
Thanks for both replies.

Where is the sensor? Is it the same as the sender, described above?
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:59 PM
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Thanks for both replies.

Where is the sensor? Is it the same as the sender, described above?
It's the same thing. The sender/ sensor is pretty rugged and rarely goes bad. It's basically a resistor that changes value according to temperature.
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Check the body to engine ground strap. Make sure it has clean contacts on each end where it is bolted.

I had a jumpy Temp gauge, and this was the issue.

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Thanks for both replies.

Where is the sensor? Is it the same as the sender, described above?
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:18 PM
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Sometimes, people report success when they replace the sensor, but keep in mind all it might take is re-making better electrical contact at the sensor you've got. Putting a new part in works, sure, but rule out the simple and free stuff first.
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:37 PM
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Check the body to engine ground strap. Make sure it has clean contacts on each end where it is bolted.

I had a jumpy Temp gauge, and this was the issue.

Charlie
Thanks. Where is that? That actually sounds plausible, since it works intermittently.
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Thanks. Where is that? That actually sounds plausible, since it works intermittently.
The ground strap is connected to the front of the transmission bell housing, driver's side.
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Old 08-15-2010, 03:42 PM
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The ground strap is connected to the front of the transmission bell housing, driver's side.
Needle is back to rock solid.

Cleaned the contact at the engine block with WD-40.

Checked the ground strap...it was solid, but interestingly, I had a fuel injector return line leak out of #3 that was dripping down through the chassis and going right over one of the ground strap bolts.

Replaced that bit of return line, wiped everything down, and it all seems to be as good as new.

Thanks for all of the help.

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