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compress ignite · #1 08-13-2010, 06:22 PM

The Savannah Morning News (AKA The Mullet Wrapper,Apologies to ALL fish) is
quoting GPA (Georgia Ports Authority)Executive Director Curtis J. Foltz, "as having undertaken this proactive study to reduce our environmental footprint."

"The GPA is expected to announce Today (8/13/2010) that it's Diesel Additive study has yielded a 5% reduction in fuel consumption,as well as drastically
reduced emissions."

No Where in the Article does the name of the "Additive" appear (Bummer).
'Newspaper's editor for that section promises name to be divulged next Friday.

[As a side-note the GPA is in the midst of a Battle Royal with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (And Environmentalists) over dredging the Harbor deeper which will De-oxygenate the Savannah National Wildlife Refuge.
(AND a bunch of other environmentally damaging practices.)
Howeveah, The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers MUST have projects to waste
federal tax dollars upon to justify their existence.
So, the GPA has mounted these massive "Feel Good" publicity campaigns as if
they were concerned with the Environment...]

layback40 · #2 08-13-2010, 10:31 PM

If all of these claims about improvements in efficiency were true, we would by now all have motors that were so efficient that they use no fuel !!
Another snake oil story !!!

Oldwolf · #3 08-14-2010, 07:41 AM

Still, I look forward to finding out what the "Additive is".

pawoSD · #4 08-14-2010, 09:20 AM

Even if there is an additive that improves the mileage, if that additive is $10 for 12oz, then its not remotely worth it.

layback40 · #5 08-14-2010, 10:32 AM

I was thinking the same. If you have an additive that you add at 5% to the fuel, it should give you a 5% reduction in fuel usage . Straight diesel would do that.

MTUpower · #6 08-14-2010, 10:33 AM

Not all diesels are equal. Ship diesels tend to burn bunker fuel/oil. It's not the same as diesel sold for on road use. There certainly is room for better fuel consumptions with additives when burning sub quality fuel. Harbors/inlets/ship channels around the USA are NOT being kept to the min. depth needed for safe passage- and the Corp is strapped for money to maintain these. It's not pork at all.

compress ignite · #7 08-14-2010, 07:48 PM

Ship Designers,Builders and Owners Care NOTHING about Environmental Destruction caused by the constant need to Dredge,brought on by construction
of ever larger,DEEPER Draft Vessels.
'Just because the fools build them to reduce the Owner's costs,Does Not Mean We have to Destroy the Estuarine Environment catering to ever larger hulls.

The Bahamas have the proper Transport mix for both Commerce and the
Environment.they use "Lighter" vessels to offload the larger vessels offshore
and transport the goods onshore.

There's considerable Possibility of Breaching the Top Cap of the Ocala Aquifer,
(Underground reservoir of Fresh Water that supplies S.C. G.A. and FLA.) If
further DEEPER Dredging is allowed.

I agree with you the Corps is "Financially Challenged" , AND they should be...
They are Not Engineers.They are Not Construction Managers.
They are Incompetent Bureaucrats.
MANY,MANY of the "Projects" Espoused by the Corp in the Last Hundred Years,Are Now Being "Mitigated" (REVERSED AKA "FIXED") due to the almost
Irreparable Environmental harm visited upon America by these clowns.

The Corps has Abandoned the Depth Requirements necessary for Maintenance of the Intracoastal Waterway,because the Constituency of
Mariners using the I.C.W. are NOT Wealthy,Politically Powerful Ocean Going Ship Owners.

Don't get me started on the Collection of Nincompoops, Masquerading as
the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.They are the biggest group of Whores
in America ,outside of the Beltway.

The Natural Flow Of Sand/Sediment on the East Coast of Conus is North to South,ANY time that natural progression is disturbed Damage results.
Dredging Harbors Screws up the Natural Progression.
The Idiots @ the Corp have already admitted that their dredging the Harbor @ Savannah has drastically effected the Environmental Sand Progression
as far south as the Florida Keys.
The Corps "Solution" is to dredge MORE fill up unto the affected Beaches
(Which then washes South ,Filling in Inlets and Estuaries.)

RANT FINIS

The GPA study was done on Rolling Equipment used onshore Burning only #2
Diesel. "Jockey" Trucks, Cranes,Etc.

JohnS · #8 08-15-2010, 11:09 AM

Good rant - more or less the same thing has been going on in Philadelphia relative to the Delaware river. PA wants it, fortunately in our case there are two other states involved DE and NJ and they don't.

Now we return to our regularly scheduled MB topics

123Guy · #9 08-15-2010, 11:17 AM

The best additive is RedLine Diesel Fuel Catalyst, it's a cetane booster and will make your diesel run better - that may equate to more mileage, but, even it doesn't, at least, your engine runs better.

compress ignite · #10 08-15-2010, 05:39 PM

123guy,

I agree with youse.
I won't put Diesel into a Tank without Redline (AND Startron) added,in correct
amounts.

Layback40,

I'm of your opinion also,the Scheiße flag's a rippling in the breeze.
[Interesting to see what they claim to have used]

pawoSD · #11 08-15-2010, 06:29 PM

I run no additives 99% of the time and my engine runs just as good with over 300k as it did with 200k when I bought it. Snake oils. I don't do diesel purges either.

I use Redline Fuel system cleaner in my 300E but that engine and fuel system are a different breed than the rugged 617 injection system....it is much more sensitive to small changes.

compress ignite · #12 08-16-2010, 03:56 PM

Well,

Unnamed source @ G.P.A. says the name of the "Magic Pixie Dust" is:
"Power Kleen" (Hydro Tech).

Increased fuel efficiency is gained by increased fuel system cleanliness
Cleaner Injectors (Etc,) leads to better fuel atomization,Etc.

Claim is they spend $5,000.00 per month to save $25,000.00 per month in Diesel fuel costs.
[Isn't it Wunnerful that the GPA is a State of Georgia AUTHORITY and therefore by Georgia Constitutional Law answers to no one,financially.]
(No One will say the cost of the study)

The Older Diesel equipment @ the Ports showed more fuel efficiency improvement than the Newer Diesel engines.

Fuel economy increases rose during warmer weather (Spring + Summer).

They (GPA) stress they are not "Shilling" for Power Service/Power Kleen.

BUT,This will have been the largest operational test of a Diesel Fuel additive
commissioned and completed by a third party lab. Ever...

Waiting for Due Diligence by Newspaper and print on this Friday...

layback40 · #13 08-16-2010, 11:26 PM

So they are spending $500,000 a month on diesel in the motors they did the tests on?
I think they may have done a test on their oldest sickest motor & extrapolated the results over all their motors.
Looks like a little statistical manipulation has gone on here.

compress ignite · #14 08-17-2010, 02:00 PM

No, we are not yet privy to the total diesel fuel costs per month @ the Savannah Ports.

GPA also operates ports in Brunswick,Ga.

Those are the Two Deepwater Atlantic Ports.

There are also Two Inland Ports: One @ BainBridge,One @ Columbus.
(Those are both on the Chattahoochee/Apalachicola River System which empties into Apalachicola Bay and thence the Gulf of Mexico.)

MTUpower · #15 08-17-2010, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compress ignite

Ship Designers,Builders and Owners Care NOTHING about Environmental Destruction ...

WOW- care to back any of that rant up with links and facts? Where do you get your nautical knowledge and information? As a full time ocean going captain I find very little of your rant to have rational facts.