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nazrat 09-12-2010 11:21 PM

OM617A Water Pump Differences
 
I'm getting an om617A engine ready to swap in and as part of the prep I replaced the water pump. The fan pulley won't fit over the shaft of the pump. The interchange book listed 77-85 300Ds and 81-85 300SDs for this pump.

I guess what I'd like to know is if the pulley I have is an oddball, or if the new pump is. The pulley fit the old pump so a pump exists that fits this but I'm not sure where any of it came from on this engine.

-Tad

t walgamuth 09-13-2010 02:28 AM

mb built a lot of very similar pumps with minor details for the application. I would take it back and tell them what I needed and let them sort it out.

Gillig 09-13-2010 02:33 PM

All of them are the same. The only difference is the smaller diameter pulley on 84-85 models, which is interchangeable with older models.

kerry 09-13-2010 02:50 PM

Just for clarity's sake; the W115 617 has a different water pump than the 123 617's and the van 616 and 617's have a number of different water pumps that are not compatible with the car versions.

nazrat 09-13-2010 04:14 PM

I'll take my pulley with me to the parts store. If it doesn't fit any there I'll start shopping for a standard 617a water pump pulley.

I bought this water pump 6 months ago (it's been a slow spring) so it won't be returned, but for the price I'll spring for one that fits.

-Tad

Captain America 09-13-2010 04:20 PM

Would there be a benefit of putting a smaller 84-85 pulley on an 82 to spin the pump faster? It seems like water circulation is just not adequate at low engine speed...

nazrat 09-13-2010 04:23 PM

From what I hear, yes. I don't have an 85 sitting around anymore though.

-Tad

nazrat 09-13-2010 08:45 PM

Well the ******** water pump for a 1981 300SD has a center shaft that is too big. It is a GATES #41160. The pump I got from Advance Auto for a 1983 300SD does have the correct shaft size though. Go figure.

Thanks for the advice all.

I'll install an aux water pump on a switch for the heater core for now.

-Tad

Gillig 09-14-2010 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain America (Post 2543835)
Would there be a benefit of putting a smaller 84-85 pulley on an 82 to spin the pump faster?

Yes, but you must use the plastic fan as well. Using the smaller pulley with the aluminum fan can = fan blade failure (very nasty).

The difference is something like 0.9:1 instead of 1.09:1. There is a TSB about it if somebody has access to AllData to get it.


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