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3 prong plug in engine? Why?
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Hi. Wondering why this would be in my engine? If you look at the 2nd picture, the plug powers goes to the red knob. why?
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It's a block heater.
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Great! Owner didn't mention that. Thank you!
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Yep, its a heater that heats up your coolant. Plug it in on cold nights and your car will warm up alot faster.
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Is it necessary for NY winter? How cold does it have to be? Sorry for the newbie questions...
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you'll want to use it
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HAH! Yes... I've been looking into security. Maybe a pitbull in the car.
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They really are a nice feature to have or one to add.
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You don't NEED it but it will help as long as your engine is still in good condition. I never used it as I had street parking only, always started up even on the coldest days.
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Every engine is a little different. Some are unusually friendly, some are unusually finicky, and most are in between. The "in general" answer is
25-30 degrees and warmer: no heater should be necessary as long as your glowplugs work 0-25 degrees (give or take): Heater will help but if you can't practically use it, you probably won't notice a HUGE difference *provided* your battery is strong and your oil doesn't get too thick. Below 0: it's a good idea to plug in. Again, these are estimates. 60x engines are thoroughly different than 61x engines for cold starting. Some examples of each will start at negative ten degrees with no extra heat. Some will refuse to start without the plug at fifteen positive if they're not up to snuff. |
The Original Block heater quit on her car and I opted for one of these units in the lower rad hose rather than trying to do the block heater instead. I found this to be a better heater than the block heater and way easy to install/ get at. I may put one on my car aswell if/when the block heater in mine goes out. It was cheap too, I think 45 bucks. When she lost hers it was -35 degrees celcius.....so we needed it in a hurry to drive the car up here in the cold.
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It's an engine heater but not the original in-the-block heater. It's a lower radiator hose engine heater. There may also be an in-the-block heater above the starter.
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Like I said before it did a better job keeping the block warm for me up in the cold last winter than the o.e unit that was in there before. I should mention that since posting previously I have gone through the service records of that particular car and found it to have had a new block heater installed in 2004 and burnt out in 2009. I am not sure what brand of block heater it was that was installed so I really should'nt use the term o.e for my particular circumstance in hindsight. It could have been a cheaper jobber unit put in to replace the original at that time I don't know.The car in question is an 85' model so the original if replaced in 2004 lasted for 19 years.(pretty good) I was a little cocerned with the element affecting flow of coolant in the lower rad hose for summer operating temps. I kept close watch of the guage this summer and noticed no difference in operating temps. I think the newer rad hose heater was quicker to heat up the coolant and therefore more efficient. I noticed my power consumption bills get pretty expensive in the winter when plugging in 2 of these old diesel block heaters. I will definately be using a timer this winter. The lower rad hose unit I expect to perform better/cheaper with a timer since it is quicker to heat as mentioned. |
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Temro brand Lower rad hose heater bought at Canadian Tire last winter in her 85' model. I'll pay more attention this winter as my car still has the original in block style block heater to compare to. May not be a fair comparison if it is the original 26 year old block heater in mine.
I am fairly certain that her block heater would actually make the temp. guage rise just a hair on the guage, I'll check that again this winter and maybe post a pic of it. That was a bit of a cinch for me to like this lower rad hose heater better. |
Block Heater
I had my 2.2L engine and it started in the Montana Rockies without a block heater, but during the real cold times (-28 F), I had to double bump the good glow plugs and spend a deal of time getting it running. The rest of the time, it started OK, just took a little longer to heat up.
I bought an aftermarket heater for my 300D at Napa, and took it in for installation to a local shop in Fergus Falls, MN (Near Fargo, ND). I gave them a printout about the sage advice from others in extreme winter enviornments about putting in an OEM block heater (requires a torch applied til bolt is glowing red), but the mechanics would not listen and insisted on installing the OEM, which was available. After I said OK, on the basis that they give me a written estimate on time, they vowed to start it and have it finished in the morning. Well, what do I know . . . am just a woman and just a dumb truck driver. They didn't even want to read the info from here on this forum warning about the OEM black heater on an older car. Well, guess what . . . . they were not happy to see me the next day. They finally had to read the printout and fire up the torch, and I had them stuck on that written estimate. My advice . . . use the one that you have until it burns out. Replace it with OEM if the bolts are not welded on from time, or get the aftermarket replacement if they are as good as welded on. Every winter that my 300D spent in Fargo area cost me a new set of glow plugs. But NYC was a piece of cake, even on the coldest days. Torie |
anybody that has not spent time living in the central northern states has NO IDEA what cold starting is! (south pole excluded... BRRR) houses that need entries on all four sides to prevent being locked into the house due to drifts covering the house.... wind chills at more than 100below zero F! actual temps below -30F mind numbing areas to live in.
block heaters there are mandatory on the fuel tanks, and the blocks. and the battery as well. |
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