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Skid Row Joe 11-01-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman805 (Post 2576589)
Thanks anyway! I appreciate the critical insight!

I have until 7PM tonight to put the deposit down and have asked the seller to cancel the transaction. Hopefully he will be okay with that and I'll send him a some money for a nice dinner for the hassle.

Depending on the reaction of the seller, I will probably ask Tyler to go ahead and do the pre-inspection as we agreed for my own edification and as a reference for the seller if everything in the listing was/is true.

So, now you are trying to CANCEL the terms of sale - AFTER agreeing to buy it? That's dishonest to try and do to the seller.

You owe the Seller the deposit. You agreed to buy it at $5,800.00. That's a deal as far as I'm concerned.

FrodeS 11-01-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by W124 E300D (Post 2576605)
Buying via ebay in the UK is quite safe, as the car has to be as advertised, and various things like annual official roadworthiness certs, you can always just walk away or get your money back.

Have you ever bought a car on ebay.co.uk ?!?!?

I have. 7 in total now, and only for breaking into pieces. Only once was the car as described. I've also bought a digger and two trailers. All in significant poorer condition than advertised. All the others had more or less important faults that the sellers never told me. "a little slow on engaging reverse". Yeah, right. I discovered a little too late why the car was backed (probably pushed) into the drive way. It had no reverse at all. It might be the sellers don't care when they know the car is going out of the country.

W124 E300D 11-01-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FrodeS (Post 2576617)
Have you ever bought a car on ebay.co.uk ?!?!?

I have. 7 in total now, and only for breaking into pieces. Only once was the car as described. I've also bought a digger and two trailers. All in significant poorer condition than advertised. All the others had more or less important faults that the sellers never told me. "a little slow on engaging reverse". Yeah, right. I discovered a little too late why the car was backed (probably pushed) into the drive way. It had no reverse at all. It might be the sellers don't care when they know the car is going out of the country.

Since 2000 every vehicle (4 motorcycles and many cars) I have bought and sold has been via ebay UK, never had a single problem of any kind either way.

The only one I lost money on was a Peugeot 405D that I paid £199 for and sold 2 years later for £140, having done precisely nothing to it except one filter and fluid change.

TylerH860 11-01-2010 05:50 PM

Either he's the nicest seller in the world or reluctant to have someone who knows these things start poking around, and happily canceled the transaction.

jonbobshinigin 11-01-2010 06:01 PM

Get a local guy from here to check the car out and inform the seller that you are wanting to do so...if he is confident in his advertising ethics, all should be well provided that you are courteous in how you communicate. As Skid said, you did make a deal. A "man's word" keeps lessening in value...let's not add to that!

iceman805 11-01-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 2576610)
So, now you are trying to change the terms of sale - AFTER agreeing to buy it? That's dishonest to try and do to the seller.

You owe the Seller the deposit. You agreed to buy it at $5,800.00. That's a deal as far as I'm concerned.

If you don't ask, you don't get. The seller was completely cool with my request and it wasn't dishonest because I didn't intend to take this course of action when I ended the auction on Saturday.

I didn't end the auction due to the concern listed here, there was something personal that occurred which forced my hand.

That being said:
I think you've had a bit of chip on your shoulder with me since you stated that the seller had alluded to rust on the car when in fact I thought his statements were clear that it didn't have any at all:

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 2575865)
especially since the seller eluded to the strong likelyhood that it is already rusting.

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Originally Posted by iceman805 (Post 2575893)
I think you miss-read his statement on the rust. He said there was none and had actually gone to great lengths to confirm this was the case.

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe (Post 2575935)
Didn't misread it at all. I read NO "lenghty confirmations" in his statements that the car is rust free. None at all.

I'm not sure where you got the "strong likelyhood" but this is what I considered to be a declaration that the was no rust on the car:

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There is no rust on this vehicle.
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Some of these chassis have had a propensity to corrode or rust along the rear quarter panels near the lower edge of the rear windows. This is usually evident as the paint begins to blister but not always easy to detect otherwise. I have had both rear windows and rear hatch removed for inspection for this reason. No problems were encountered.
If you had said "I think he is lying and there is absolutely rust on that car somewhere" I wouldn't have said I thought you miss-read the description. That's all I'm sayin'. :D

iceman805 11-01-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jonbobshinigin (Post 2576700)
Get a local guy from here to check the car out and inform the seller that you are wanting to do so...if he is confident in his advertising ethics, all should be well provided that you are courteous in how you communicate. As Skid said, you did make a deal. A "man's word" keeps lessening in value...let's not add to that!

If he had not been cool with my request then I would have found a way to make it happen. Fortunately, he was cool with it. I told him I hope the bidding goes well over the $5800 on the next auction.

-=DeanstuD=- 11-01-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jonbobshinigin (Post 2576700)
As Skid said, you did make a deal. A "man's word" keeps lessening in value...let's not add to that!

HEAR! HEAR! We all know when you make a bid on an ebay item you are promising you will buy what you bid on. Try bidding and flaking at a real life auction. I fear the only lesson learned when a seller lets someone "off the hook" is that it is ok to be a flake.

Skid Row Joe 11-01-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -=DeanstuD=- (Post 2576848)
HEAR! HEAR! We all know when you make a bid on an ebay item you are promising you will buy what you bid on. Try bidding and flaking at a real life auction. I fear the only lesson learned when a seller lets someone "off the hook" is that it is ok to be a flake.

X 2

He agreed to buy something he had NO intention of buying.

I had his number all along.

Skid Row Joe 11-01-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860 (Post 2576692)
Either he's the nicest seller in the world or reluctant to have someone who knows these things start poking around, and happily canceled the transaction.

Or, he was given a heads-up on the flakey bidder from California. . .:D

babymog 11-01-2010 10:11 PM

I don't particularly care for the buy then drop, as a seller I'd be pretty unhappy. However, seems like this car is not the car that the seller would like potential buyers to believe, I'm pretty happy that he didn't sell it misrepresented (yet).

Yes, the buyer should have done his research up-front, and not bought until he was "ready, willing, and able".

On the car: Faded interior, un-documented and likely incorrect miles, badly mismatched console wood, faded gauge needles, bad paint (at least on hood), IP lines missing clips, headlamp wipers missing, sun-damaged bumpers, black speaker grille on RR door, no front seat photos, more I'm sure.

The good? Someone did swap in a leather steering wheel.

Seems pretty rust-free, could be a straight car. With the mileage issue and cosmetics though, I feel it's overpriced by about $2k or more. I might be wrong (have been before, I'm married!).

iceman805 11-01-2010 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by babymog (Post 2576892)
Yes, the buyer should have done his research up-front, and not bought until he was "ready, willing, and able".

I appreciate the benefit of the doubt.

Regardless of what Mr Chip on His Shoulder thinks I arranged to borrow $4000 until I could sell my E320. I made the mistake of bidding before I had the cash in hand and come Monday the lender wasn't able to come through due to an unexpected letter from BofA. Lesson learned.

Skid Row Joe 11-01-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman805 (Post 2576983)
I appreciate the benefit of the doubt.

Regardless of what Mr Chip on His Shoulder thinks I arranged to borrow $4000 until I could sell my E320. I made the mistake of bidding before I had the cash in hand and come Monday the lender wasn't able to come through due to an unexpected letter from BofA. Lesson learned.

You entered into a legally binding contract without money to fulfill your end of it. Somehow I have no trouble believing that. It's just not real grown up activity to pull on unsuspecting people as you did.

ngarover 11-02-2010 12:30 AM

Why is the oil pressure at 3 with the engine off?

Skid Row Joe 11-02-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ngarover (Post 2577026)
Why is the oil pressure at 3 with the engine off?

I think you're on the other '87 300TDT thread.


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