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Old 11-07-2010, 05:54 PM
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It is heartening to hear about people who use old cars and shun new junk - go for it.
There's nothing wrong with using old cars - I've done it for decades myself. Any shunning comes into play when it doesn't make total balance sheet sense to use overly old cars thousands of miles away from your homebase. Then perhaps introducing newer junk should be employed. It does not need to be "new junk," - IMHO.

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Old 11-07-2010, 05:57 PM
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There's a pretty decent argument that Craig should have towbar mounts on 2 123's. On these cross country trips, one tows the other until the first one breaks down and then they switch positions for the trip home.
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:57 PM
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I will either funjet back and fetch the pickup and a motor--or the towbar, and ide yank the drive shaft out.
Yup Craig, you luv hatin on pickups--But they are a necessity with some peoples contingency plan
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:01 PM
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Yup Craig, you luv hatin on pickups--But they are a necessity with some peoples contingency plan
LOL, I can pay for lots of shop time for the cost of owning a pick-up. I also don't have time to be chasing parts around the country. I understand there is always a trade-off between spending your time and spending your money.
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:06 PM
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There's a pretty decent argument that Craig should have towbar mounts on 2 123's. On these cross country trips, one tows the other until the first one breaks down and then they switch positions for the trip home.
Although somewhat fail-safe, that fails to address and mitigate any of the following, the added expense of; 1) lower mpg 2) an additional vehicle and it's associated additional expense/licensing/insuring that vehicle 3) additional dangerous safety issues towing/braking 4) the real possibility of having (2) incapacitated overly old vehicles - thousands of miles away from your homebase.

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Old 11-07-2010, 06:09 PM
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LOL, I can pay for lots of shop time for the cost of owning a pick-up. I also don't have time to be chasing parts around the country. I understand there is always a trade-off between spending your time and spending your money.
Its all good, My old ford cost me $700.00 -one time I drove it to Portland Maine,-Via Cleveland from Ft Worth,--- Because I wanted a Really fresh lobster!
The 40k motor is safe with me--unless someone comes up with $1500.00!

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Old 11-07-2010, 06:31 PM
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I also don't have time to be chasing parts around the country. I understand there is always a trade-off between spending your time and spending your money.!
I don't think I'd call anything a trade-off in time or money, when having to rely on the very real possibility of needing warranty work from a dealer in Cleveland, Ohio you bought an engine from, when the car becomes incapacitated in Denver, Colorado.

-But that's just me and my common sense business meter kicking in.....
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:36 PM
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I don't think I'd call anything a trade-off in time or money, when having to rely on the very real possibility of needing warranty work from a dealer in Cleveland, Ohio you bought an engine from, when the car becomes incapacitated in Denver, Colorado.

-But that's just me and my common sense business meter kicking in.....
Yes sometimes some have to forget the warranty and go with quality used equipment.
Could I intrest any sportsmen in a like NEW holset VGT turbo ??
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:44 PM
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Yes sometimes some have to forget the warranty and go with quality used equipment.
Could I intrest any sportsmen in a like NEW holset VGT turbo ??
If I understood your previous posting - I'd recover the car in person myself with my own truck from my homebase.

However, I still would likely opt to get what I could in scrap for it on the road, and buy a newer vehicle to do business in.

Devoting nearly $10K, nearly two thousand miles away from home in an automobile with over 550K miles on it, at 28 years old - is not a business decision I would support or commit under any circumstances. My risk meter works better than that, or it's because of BTDT for 37 years on the road.
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:46 PM
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If I understood your previous posting - I'd recover the car in person myself with my own truck from my homebase.

However, I still would likely opt to get what I could in scrap for it on the road, and buy a newer vehicle to do business in.

Devoting nearly $10K, nearly two thousand miles away from home in an automobile with over 550K miles on it, at 28 years old - is not a business decision I would support or commit under any circumstances. My risk meter works better than that, or it's because of BTDT for 37 years on the road.
He would ge $150 for it with that route.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:05 PM
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Probably about $7-8k, plus rental cars, airfare, etc. I actually ended up getting one from adsit; neither adsit nor metric had one in stock so they both will need a couple of weeks. The bottom line was that adsit was about $2k cheaper and 1500 miles closer. The dealer has a history with adsit, and they are willing to let me buy it directly without them taking markup. I'm a little nervous about adsit, but I can't justify the extra cost, shipping, and time involved in going to metric. We'll see how it works out, at least the tech at the dealer seems to know his stuff.
I didn't see in mentioned but, was an official MB re-manufactured/replacement 617 engine from the fatherland not available or was it decided against because of cost/time or other reasons?

I know someone who a couple years ago stole i.e. found and bought a complete MB replacement engine for $2000 was still mounted on a steel stand in a wooden crate with all the paperwork from MB the way it came over on the ship, the only things it needed where the alternator, compressor, power steering pump, and fan. It came with the turbo, air cleaner and everything, I went with him and picked it up in this giant, old, poorly lit warehouse, when we pried the top of the crate off everything was covered with corrosion retarding vapor paper. We pulled that off and all the cadmium-nickelbb plated lines, clamps, brackets, nuts and bolts looked like gold, we joked that it was like finding a pirates treasure chest!

Got it back to the ranch and removed the rest of the crate and it sat around like that on it’s stand being admired for a couple weeks before installing it, it was almost too pretty to put in the engine compartment!
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:19 PM
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I inquired about a crate engine from MB back in 07. they are NLA.

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Old 11-07-2010, 07:36 PM
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I inquired about a crate engine from MB back in 07. they are NLA.

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Actually, this dealer told me that MB still lists the motor for $11K, but I didn't check to see if it was still really available. It may be listed but not really available.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:50 PM
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He would ge $150 for it with that route.
LOL, don't worry about it; I'm not about to take any business advice from our friend, skid's.

I don't mind spending a little money when my toys break, and my engine warrantee is with the engine vendor, not with the dealer. My only regret is not putting in a reman engine last time; live and learn.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:43 PM
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Although somewhat fail-safe, that fails to address and mitigate any of the following, the added expense of; 1) lower mpg 2) an additional vehicle and it's associated additional expense/licensing/insuring that vehicle 3) additional dangerous safety issues towing/braking 4) the real possibility of having (2) incapacitated overly old vehicles - thousands of miles away from your homebase.
uuuhhhh.....it was a joke.

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